Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[farmer steve]

I thought lava eruptions are more hollywood than real world. I've not read about the details in this case, but assumed th deaths and injuries would be poisonous gas or struck by a lump of ejected debris (rock/ash).

Not sure either Neil . I heard on the news here most of the people they rescued had severe burns.

 

[Philbert]

I visited Volcanoes National Park in Hawaii and have seen molten lava. The issue here appears to have been an eruption, as opposed to 'just' lava flow. The eruption can include super-heated gas, poisonous gas, flying rocks, etc. When Mount Saint Helens erupted, almost 40 years ago, it instantly melted snow, and created mud flows that rapidly swallowed buildings, etc. The dust in the air was noticable across all states to the east.

Mother Nature can be quite unforgiving.

Philbert

 

[svk]

Mother Nature can be quite unforgiving.

Philbert

Right! And most of the people who test her strength end up losing.

 

[LondonNeil]

Mount st helens i remember going. It lost something like 2/3rds it height over a week, and maybe half of that in, well....boom! Pyroclastic flow, mud slides from the rain and ash...didn't it knock over trees something like 20 miles away? However it was well monitored, had been inflating the lava chamber for sometime, everyone warned and most people had heeded the advice.

 

[svk]

Mount st helens i remember going. It lost something like 2/3rds it height over a week, and maybe half of that in, well....boom! Pyroclastic flow, mud slides from the rain and ash...didn't it knock over trees something like 20 miles away? However it was well monitored, had been inflating the lava chamber for sometime, everyone warned and most people had heeded the advice.

I have only read about it as I was very young. But a lot of the folks that decided to stay in their cabins never were seen or found when things blew. Sad, but preventable.

 

[LondonNeil]

Well, I'm looking for another job... got interviewed for my own yestreday...told today I've not got it. Lots of training beng applied for already and I'll be filling my time job searching

 

[svk]

Well, I'm looking for another job... got interviewed for my own yestreday...told today I've not got it. Lots of training beng applied for already and I'll be filling my time job searching

Sorry to hear. Best of luck in your search.

 

[LondonNeil]

ta. Time to move on anyway, but I'd have preferred to go on a high note.

 

[Deleted member 150358]

wait, what? small engines have a battery system?

Its on the snowblower I just bought my daughter. Small lithium battery to pressurise the fuel pump until the generator kicks in. Works slick on there. Its 306cc EFI pretty sure its Ariens branded Briggs N Stratton but not 100% sure.

The system resembles the conversion retro kits available online.

 

[KiwiBro]

Good luck Neil.
I wonder how far over our greenhouse gas quota limits NZ is for 2019 after this eruption. The govt oughta check the Island has the requisite carbon credits and if not take appropriate action against said Island. That'll learn it.

 

[KiwiBro]

Its on the snowblower I just bought my daughter. Small lithium battery to pressurise the fuel pump until the generator kicks in. Works slick on there. Its 306cc EFI pretty sure its Ariens branded Briggs N Stratton but not 100% sure.

The system resembles the conversion retro kits available online.

Ahh, thanks. For some reason I was thinking small as in pull start and wondering why anyone would want to be messing with batteries, but obviously getting above 10HP there are easier ways to start an engine than pull cords . I wonder if they'll ever make a battery-enabled easy-start for a petrol chainsaw. Could heat the handles too. Perhaps a USB port on the handle for powering a coffee machine...

 

[steved]

Mount st helens i remember going. It lost something like 2/3rds it height over a week, and maybe half of that in, well....boom! Pyroclastic flow, mud slides from the rain and ash...didn't it knock over trees something like 20 miles away? However it was well monitored, had been inflating the lava chamber for sometime, everyone warned and most people had heeded the advice.

Yeah, wasn't there something like 57 people dead from that eruption? It lost a whole side, which probably save some folks (blew mainly in one direction and not radially)....

You can warn people all you want, but there will always be some that "know better"...

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[MustangMike]

Bad shootout on the news all today … in NJ … 6 dead including the 2 perks and a 40 year old cop (father of 5). Many details still not available.

Civilization is going in reverse, and the politicians are trying to blame the guns!!!

10:1 the perks have been arrested before and were let out early. It is high time we started putting the welfare of the law abiding above the welfare of the criminals.

 

[steved]

I thought lava eruptions are more hollywood than real world. I've not read about the details in this case, but assumed th deaths and injuries would be poisonous gas or struck by a lump of ejected debris (rock/ash).

Lots of things can kill you from a volcano...lava is a minor component, in most cases, you could get out of the way of lava. Hawaii is constantly erupting, hardly ever any injuries...heck, the geologists (volcanologists?) play with it.

Mostly it is pyroclastic flows of superheated gas and ash that gets most...it happens fast, and there is really no escaping it if your nearby. I believe that is what killed all the people and buried Pompeii and Herculaneum?

The other thing is ejecta, volcanic bombs, things of that nature...get hit by a 100 pound rock falling at 50mph and your not going to wake up.

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[chipper1]

1 Corinthians 15:33

My humor doesn't seem to be making it thru the net .
I was referring to your "translation" of that scripture(particularly the hanging around part lol), I've heard that one once or twice and it's a scripture I share with most I study the Bible with. There are some interesting transliterations out there, I like to stick to the translations as some seem a bit off from the original intent .

 

[Philbert]

Ahh, thanks. For some reason I was thinking small as in pull start and wondering why anyone would want to be messing with batteries, . . . Perhaps a USB port on the handle for powering a coffee machine...

My 3 to 4 HP Toro snowthrowers have an electric start - plugs into a 120V outlet (no battery). I have only used it when the recoil rope broke, because they made it such a P.I.A. to replace, and I still had snow to clear.

A few batteries for outdoor power equipment have USB ports on them - handy for recharging your cell phone when off the grid.

Philbert

 

[MechanicMatt]

Geez Jeff you have some nerve posting pics of firewood here. I worked on and got running the predecssor of your 201 yesterday. 020 AVP.It was raining so i didn't cut with it but maybe today.

My brother used to have an 020 … what a loud SOB, but it cut well, just could not get the idle right. I hear that model is prone to carb problems. I forget the reason, but there is something different about it.

that saw of my dads is now in my possession, only Stihl I own. 4 Huskys, 36, 55CP, 262xp, 362xp with 372 BB top end one Poulan an old Echo and that Stihl 020. Used to have a ton more, but downsized a bit.

Funny side note, propane man delivered today. Wife told me “No excuses, this summer you better put in a wood stove”.
So, do I do the stainless liner or will the cinder block with the clay inner do the trick?

 

[MechanicMatt]

House originally had a wood stove. (Original owner’s daughter was actually my old neighbor in the old neighborhood). Then was converted to a propane fireplace. Now I wanna do a wood stove insert. Has a crappy electric “fireplace” in there now....

 

[MechanicMatt]

 

[JustJeff]

Stainless liner.

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