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When I ran the saw (MS461) today the idle was too fast, it was running the chain pretty good. It wasn’t like that last time I used it, maybe a week and a half ago. It didn’t want to start right off today, which is unusual. Nothing happened with the choke. I let it sit 15 minutes, then pulled it on run a bunch of times, while holding the throttle trigger, until it started. It didn’t take terribly long. It was fine after that, except the idle was too fast. Dunno.
 
Later, changed bar/chain from 20" to 16" for tomorrow's work. Found that the compression release was in. That was probably the cause.
Comp release position shouldn't matter. IF and after you get it running and you shut it off for more than say 5 minutes it should start in the run position. if not after 3-4 pulls try half choke. After that saw is warm you will flood it if you put it in the cold start(all the way down. Almost everyone of my Stihls has it's own starting procedure.:dumb:
 
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Comp release position shouldn't matter. IF and after you get it running and you shut it off for more than say 5 minutes it should start in the run position. if not after 3-4 pulls try half choke. After that saw is warm you will flood it if you put it in the cold start(all the way down. Almost everyone of my Stihls has it's own starting procedure.:dumb:
My 660 is the only finicky one. First start is easy, full choke till it pops, fast idle, one two pulls and it's running. Then it's 1-2 pulls. But, if you let it sit a little too long, it's back to full choke. If it doesn't start by the second pull, you went to choke too soon. Should have given it another pull before going to choke, now it's flooded. Sometimes after it pops on full choke I flip the lever up to fast idle and it doesn't go. Look at the lever and it's still on choke. Really flooded. Then it takes 6-8 pulls to clean it out. The trick is never take a break so it doesn't get into that inbetween cool down, then you don't need to worry about choke or no choke.
 
When I ran the saw (MS461) today the idle was too fast, it was running the chain pretty good. It wasn’t like that last time I used it, maybe a week and a half ago. It didn’t want to start right off today, which is unusual. Nothing happened with the choke. I let it sit 15 minutes, then pulled it on run a bunch of times, while holding the throttle trigger, until it started. It didn’t take terribly long. It was fine after that, except the idle was too fast. Dunno.
If the idle just seemed to pick up with out changing any settings, keep an eye on it. That's how I found AS. I had several Oak logs on the ground to buck up to finish the job. I only took one of my Super 1050's. First log went fine, as I was walking over to the other log I noticed the idle seemed a little high, enough that it was spinning the chain. Made a few cuts and as I moved to the next one the idle was picking up more. From racing cars, I knew I was sucking air somewhere, I didn't know, at the time, that running a 2 stroke lean would kill it quick. Got the last cut finished. The next day the saw wouldn't start. Found AS and someone said to check the P/C. Sure enough, the rings were melted into the piston.
Learned an expensive lesson, don't run them lean and always have a back up.
 
As annoying as some of those sayings are, you can’t hold it against people for using terms that they were brought up with.

The two that I can’t stand are when people call tomatoes “maters”. Or calling cooked beans “soup beans”.

I liked the story about CTYank (John) and spike60 (Bob) at a GTG one time. For those of you who don’t know the personalities, CTYank is IMO a really strange dude and Bob is as matter of fact as you can get. Bob was telling a story and John kept correcting him about “depth gauges” and “rakers”. Finally Bob stopped, looked directly at him and said “John, around here we call them RAKERS!”
 
Terminology changes fast!

Where I grew up any carbonated beverage was referred to as "Soda". If you went Upstate NY and asked for a Soda you got ice cream in it, and they referred to the carbonated beverage as "Pop".

Then there were the Wedge, Sub, Hoagie, Grinder debates, depending on where you were from.

Then I remember a girl ribbing me about my Italian last name. So I asked her what she had in her that she was so proud of. She responded that she was "Yankee"!!! Turns out she grew up in New England and did not have a clue what she was!
It baffles me that a lot of people have no clue about their heritage. I’m proud of mine (ok maybe not that sliver of a French blood lol) but my personality definitely embodies the Irish, Scottish, and German blood that runs through me.
 
It baffles me that a lot of people have no clue about their heritage. I’m proud of mine (ok maybe not that sliver of a French blood lol) but my personality definitely embodies the Irish, Scottish, and German blood that runs through me.

Should see the family tree my father in law has. It is his main hobby. He works on it EVERY DAY and has been doing it for decades.

He has visited distant relatives in Germany many times as well as them coming here.

He found out that i am swiss, Irish and English. I visited the town in switzerland that my Family is from. No relatives left there though. Absolutely beautiful country. The Alps are unbelievable!Was at 3,899 meters once.

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State park campground had a couple spruce they wanted taken down. One was still green but rotten at the base, other one was dead and leaned toward fence and road, both about 34”. Wasn’t room to fall green one the way it leaned so cut top out then pulled stem the other wayView attachment 824231
Base of top made little hole :surprised3: View attachment 824233
Ground was a little soft, my plan to keep top off dirt and get rope off didn’t quite work, lol:nofunny:View attachment 824232
Dead oneView attachment 824240
My son did good, even missed the fence:)View attachment 824241


Originally they just wanted them on the ground, they called after we were done and ask if we wanted the wood :sweet:

Nice work Nate, gonna need to see some pictures of those stumps though :p.
Awesome you got to keep the wood, how many trailer loads you get out of there.
 
Joe is correct, watch out for an air leak and make sure the Hi is not too lean.

However, sometimes changes in temp, or break in of the saw can result in a faster idle. If you can adjust if out easily I would not be real concerned about it.

Two screws impact the idle on most Stihls. The lower screw (LA) is just a mechanical adjuster of the throttle plate and is often not used, but it may be your problem. Back it out a bit and see if your idle drops. The Lo screw (upper right) adjusts the low speed mix. Generally start at 3/4 - 1 turn out and adjust either which way as necessary. I like to make the idle just a hair lower than where it spins the chain. If you make it too low, when conditions change a bit the saw may stall.
 
Nice hatch!

Would love to have one of that vintage, but the wife always made fun of me in my 2000 Si (EM1 in EBP). She would say, "Big man in a little car" in the voice of Chris Farley from Black Sheep.
I always loved the late 90s, early 2000s Civic hatches. They're so light, that will little work, they can be quite quick.
Thanks.
I'll probably be selling the hatchback once the odyssey is finished, then I can also sell all my parts cars :oops:, I have a few of them just in case:lol:.
That's a funny movie:muscle::laughing:.
I like them too, maybe one day I'll buy one with a swap or an SI, neat rides. I have a 2000 insight that may get a swap in it, even a d series would be an incredible hp increase and since they are so light it would still get great fuel economy and it would get up pretty quick.
Bringing back old memories. My buddy had a 65 Plymouth Belvedere with a factory 361, 4 speed. The motor was shot so he bought a 383 from the local junk yard. We both had a free class after lunch, so we ran up and had the owner, Dollar George, stick the thing in the trunk of my 65 Dodge Dart. heading back to school, if I hit a little bump, the front tires would come off the ground. Pulling back in the school, I goosed the engine a little as I went over a speed bump. The front end came up so high I thought we were going to get stuck with my trunk on the ground. Boy, the good old days.
Reminds me of the old wheelie cars at the track.
I built quite a few S10's with 327's and 350's, I always wanted to do one with a rear engine 455. Unfortunately, I didn't have a shop to do that much fab work, motor mounts on the s10's was about all I could get away with.
 
As annoying as some of those sayings are, you can’t hold it against people for using terms that they were brought up with.

The two that I can’t stand are when people call tomatoes “maters”. Or calling cooked beans “soup beans”.

I liked the story about CTYank (John) and spike60 (Bob) at a GTG one time. For those of you who don’t know the personalities, CTYank is IMO a really strange dude and Bob is as matter of fact as you can get. Bob was telling a story and John kept correcting him about “depth gauges” and “rakers”. Finally Bob stopped, looked directly at him and said “John, around here we call them RAKERS!”
My wife and I Stihl argue about eaves troughs and rain gutters. I didn't have a clue when she first said eaves troughs. She is from Ohio.:crazy2:
And it's maters Steve.:buttkick:
 

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