The 400 is also a good choice ... and FS would know!
Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)
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Picked up the rest of the peppermint I cut the other day.
The farmer says not to bother dragging branches around, but I just have to. There are a couple of small piles from the dry stem that are reasonably solid, I'll get them another time.
The farmer says not to bother dragging branches around, but I just have to. There are a couple of small piles from the dry stem that are reasonably solid, I'll get them another time.
making progress, another 3.5 hours yesterday. finished cleaning up dthe brush from all the stuff growing out of the ase of the big tree, put down, cut/stacked brush of one of the 3 small trees. buds just beginning to open so still have no idea of what kind of the trees.
Stayed home today as prediction was "windy". Not bad in morning but about 3pm the wind was really howling. My guess was steady around 60 or more. I've only seen wind that high around here once befor and it stripped some shingles plus aluminum trim on the eaves. I'll check tomorrow to see if I need new roofs - this one is around 20 years old.
Wx permiting tomorrow I'll spend some hours on the willow bush cleanup project.
Stayed home today as prediction was "windy". Not bad in morning but about 3pm the wind was really howling. My guess was steady around 60 or more. I've only seen wind that high around here once befor and it stripped some shingles plus aluminum trim on the eaves. I'll check tomorrow to see if I need new roofs - this one is around 20 years old.
Wx permiting tomorrow I'll spend some hours on the willow bush cleanup project.
Nice saw! If you do lots of cutting and have the saws set up for particular jobs then I can understand but otherwise that list of saws looks to have some overlap. Cowboy needs a 400 Vs 460 detailed reviewSpeaking of the MS400...
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My Stihl dealer was a man of his word and called me when one came in. I traded the MS362 in. Hasn't been run yet. Both tanks are dry. Can't wait!
I need to sell my 254xp now. I will have a 180, 026, 400, 460 and 650. That should do.I might whittle the collection down more. Need...to...resist...CAD!
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Overlap? No overlap. It's called being prepared!Nice saw! If you do lots of cutting and have the saws set up for particular jobs then I can understand but otherwise that list of saws looks to have some overlap. Cowboy needs a 400 Vs 460 detailed review
All this talk of convincing cowboy to buy a 400 may backfire in my face and end up sending me to the tyre shop.
I also have a gap problem 35cc - 50cc - 79cc - 92cc.
I see a gap between 50cc and 79cc. I like the 15cc between saws rule of thumb. The Ms400 sits nicely in that gap at 66cc.
But it would also be nice to have a Ms462, if I end with one of them I’ll admit I have Cad.
I also have a gap problem 35cc - 50cc - 79cc - 92cc.
I see a gap between 50cc and 79cc. I like the 15cc between saws rule of thumb. The Ms400 sits nicely in that gap at 66cc.
But it would also be nice to have a Ms462, if I end with one of them I’ll admit I have Cad.
WoodAbuser
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I have accepted that i have CAD and i have embraced it.
You've been around here looking enough to know I was a big fan of small saws, loved my little ms180. Wouldn't win any races but it was cheap, reliable, capable and light. I still am a fan of such saws BUT after buying the Makita ea4300 I have amended my views slightly. I now think there is a certain weight/size below which lighter is little benefit. Ms180, 31cc, 4300, 43cc and proportionally more powerful and heavier, BUT still below the cut off weight where you basically don't notice it, the saw is small and can be used all day. My guess is that this changes somewhere around 45-55cc, that's not too say a bigger saw can't be used, but you'll notice the difference and feel the benefit if you go lighter.
So I'm interested to know, does your 50cc saw feel heavier than the 35, or is it just 'light'?
79cc.... Dolmakita 7910 I assume.. bit of a boat anchor.... Yes you need a lighter medium duty saw
That is the beauty of the new 400/462 saws, great power to weight.
For example, the 462 has the weight of most 60 cc saws, the size of a 70 cc saw and the power of a 77-79 cc saw (and they usually dyno over their stated 6 Hp).
Just real hard not to like them for an all around saw (if you can afford it). The price is the only downside, so you have to look at it as a long term investment.
I still have my 10 mm 044 purchased new in 12/92, and it still runs strong!
For example, the 462 has the weight of most 60 cc saws, the size of a 70 cc saw and the power of a 77-79 cc saw (and they usually dyno over their stated 6 Hp).
Just real hard not to like them for an all around saw (if you can afford it). The price is the only downside, so you have to look at it as a long term investment.
I still have my 10 mm 044 purchased new in 12/92, and it still runs strong!
Wait a second, the 7910(or the newest rendition the makita 7900prz) is less than a half a pound more than your 365xt, and will weight the same as yours if you mod the muffler and remove all the innardsYou've been around here looking enough to know I was a big fan of small saws, loved my little ms180. Wouldn't win any races but it was cheap, reliable, capable and light. I still am a fan of such saws BUT after buying the Makita ea4300 I have amended my views slightly. I now think there is a certain weight/size below which lighter is little benefit. Ms180, 31cc, 4300, 43cc and proportionally more powerful and heavier, BUT still below the cut off weight where you basically don't notice it, the saw is small and can be used all day. My guess is that this changes somewhere around 45-55cc, that's not too say a bigger saw can't be used, but you'll notice the difference and feel the benefit if you go lighter.
So I'm interested to know, does your 50cc saw feel heavier than the 35, or is it just 'light'?
79cc.... Dolmakita 7910 I assume.. bit of a boat anchor.... Yes you need a lighter medium duty saw
. The earlier dollar 7900 is lighter out of the box and it comes with a nice set up large dogs unlike the 365xt. I do like the smaller dogs on a stock 365/372 as I can get more usable length out of a 20" or 24" bar.Hope to snag up a 24" small mount bar and chain today for the 2260 jred. That will make a nice one saw plan as I can just bring a 20" and the 24" if I need to grab something quick and run to help someone
. Not that everyone shouldn't have more than one saw .
I never said the 365 isn't heavy, in fact I have in the past said it is. I find it a work out to run a tank through it. Hasn't realised it was quite as hereby as the 7910 though, blimey
Progress on and off today with running kids around. And I won't get much done next week.
My small saw is a rear handle Ms201, the next size up is the mk1 550xp.You've been around here looking enough to know I was a big fan of small saws, loved my little ms180. Wouldn't win any races but it was cheap, reliable, capable and light. I still am a fan of such saws BUT after buying the Makita ea4300 I have amended my views slightly. I now think there is a certain weight/size below which lighter is little benefit. Ms180, 31cc, 4300, 43cc and proportionally more powerful and heavier, BUT still below the cut off weight where you basically don't notice it, the saw is small and can be used all day. My guess is that this changes somewhere around 45-55cc, that's not too say a bigger saw can't be used, but you'll notice the difference and feel the benefit if you go lighter.
So I'm interested to know, does your 50cc saw feel heavier than the 35, or is it just 'light'?
79cc.... Dolmakita 7910 I assume.. bit of a boat anchor.... Yes you need a lighter medium duty saw
The 201 feels significantly lighter but interestingly its almost the same size as the 550.
I do 3 types of wood scrounging.
1) Collect a trailer load from my sisters property 440km from Sydney each time I go there. My trailer only holds half a cord. I take the 550 and 7900 for that and work my way through fallen trees. Half a cord is not that much so I don’t realy get worn out. The 550 serves the function of small saw well for this. I’ve never even bothered taking the 201.
2) State forest with 2 other buddies. They take their trailers I do all the cutting, around 2 cord per trip. The MMWS 661 does all the bucking 28” bar and the 7900 does all the noodling 20” bar. A Ms400 with a 18” bar would be ideal for noodling.
3) large rounds delivered to my door by my local tree service guy. Anything I can’t split gets noodled by the 7900.
A Ms400 would be better for noodling as the logs are cut short.
The Ms201 so far has pretty much only been used for dicing up splits which don’t fit in the fire box.
None the less I’m 44 now but I’m sure I will appreciate the weight of the Ms201 in a few decades from now So I’ll hang onto it for now.
Well if you're going to have a week off, at least you gave us a good set to go on with. @bob kern is going to ration himself to one pic per day
I'd like to have a 400 or 462.
But, as you note for a firewood cutter it needs to be a long term investment. Closing in on 69 I can't make the long term case. I've made it 40 years with a 50cc (49SP) followed by a 60cc (036Pro), about 20 years on each. If I buy anything (assuming the 036's keep running well) anytime soon it will probably be a 50cc Echo 4910 or 501.
Ran my 201 this evening
.Neighbor who's property I cut on told me he needed a tree in his yard down. He wanted the root ball out if possible, so I brought the Japanese tree uprooter over(the Kubota tractor
). Once I had it down the 201 did all the work, well sort of. It was just a 10" blue spruce that had needle cast so lots of little branches and 6 or 7 cuts on the stem, perfect saw for the job.Now it's all on the bonfire bit except the root ball
I really like my little baby saws, really want a ported 2511p
, maybe it's because I'm so old .Good idea!!! Get a fresh fix each day that way!!!Well if you're going to have a week off, at least you gave us a good set to go on with. @bob kern is going to ration himself to one pic per day
15cc spread between saws? Seems like quite a spread, I’m thinking 1 or 2cc lol.
I did get to use a saw for a minute today. Had some big chunks of walnut that needed noodled before I could move them ( not really but that was a good enough reason to get a saw fix!) Used the opportunity to tweak a poulan pro 295 I’ve been playing with. It’s good now but still needs the muffler opened a bit I believe. Gonna read up on it first. I figure somebody has it down pat on that saw.
@James Miller hey buddy check your PM’s
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