Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[svk]

Between the two I should be able to make one very nice one. I have a customer who is looking for a lower end saw that has fair power and this might be just the ticket. I also have another 55 I may pick up on the way home from the inlaws so I may have some extras to build another one/ to help @James Miller with his .
Before I start on that I want to get the 262xp finished up. I've had it torn apart to replace the piston for quite a while. I was ready to put it back together and the battery in my vernier caliper was dead. I keep forgetting to get a battery, but just got one yesterday morning . I need to measure the squish and cut a gasket for it and it should be ready to rock .
This is the one I got a while back when we were talking @svk .
This is where it's at so far.View attachment 539167

That thing is really dirty. Don't you want to clean it up a bit before reassembly?

 

[jr27236]

Have to admit it is pretty dirty

 

[chipper1]

Man is this thread going off topic. Hunting and saws now lol. What happened to scrounging firewood?

I cut some scrounged wood last week. I did a video of a plunge/bore cut the same day. The saw is a saw that was scrounged a couple weeks back, very sweet saw, a 254xp, not sure I really want to let it go.
Let me find it, be right back.
Give that a shot, I'm on my phone and sometimes it doesn't want to work with me.

 

[MustangMike]

I have also seen many articles on brush bucking, and have my own experiences. Took my second deer with the 348 Winchester, a great gun/caliber. The bullet punched through a 1" sapling, entered behind the shoulder and exited the middle of the chest. The deer dropped in 30 yds, and the blood trail looked like you poured out a bucket of red paint. But as my eyes got older, open sights were no longer a good choice.

Most studies conclude that harder bullets buck brush better (FMJ being the best), but they are not good for hunting. Conversely, I have had factory 130 gr 270 bullets deflect so wildly it was hard to believe. Velocity, rate of twist, and bullet construction are all in play, and the 130 grain bullets were designed for long range and were far too soft to handle early contact with brush.

I have conducted numerous ballistic tests on bullets, and keep track of how fast the do or don't open, and how uniform they remain, etc. I am convinced that a bullet that opens too fast, and not uniformly (a mushroom that is angled) will deflect more than a bullet that opens more slowly and is symmetrical.

As such, I like the Barns bullets as the mushroom always seems to be symmetrical.

 

[chipper1]

That thing is really dirty. Don't you want to clean it up a bit before reassembly?

It's a lot like me, not real old, not real young, little rough around the edges, but it will get the job done .
Guessing your joking, but not sure. As long as nothing gets inside all will be good. Once it's together we'll see together.
I'll post a video for you since I can't seem to get the link to work for the 254xp .

Have to admit it is pretty dirty

I'm not the cleanest guy around myself, but my insides are good (Matt 23:26 ).

 

[Cowboy254]

Man is this thread going off topic. Hunting and saws now lol. What happened to scrounging firewood?

Scrounging, you say? Well, do I have some good news. Firstly, I didn't die from snake, spider, scorpion or drop bear attacks today. Secondly, look who's back!



Looking good Limby! Understandably, after two weeks getting a new ignition unit, he was hungry so he had noodles.



Into the trunk of the bluegum now, more or less, still a bit branchy. Might as well noodle at a comfortable height.





The wood is getting bigger.



It is much slower going now and I would probably be more productive finding another tree somewhere else but this has become a mission. I have to. Because it's there.



I'm sure you'll understand.

 

[nomad_archer]

Man is this thread going off topic. Hunting and saws now lol. What happened to scrounging firewood?

Off topic?!?! We are right on topic. Go back a few hundred pages, this is a trend. Everything is fair game, hunting, fishing, guns, bows, wine, beer, exercise, bikes, cars, snowblowers, boats, MAPLE SYRUP, etc. I think we talked about Maple Syrup for like two weeks or more. This is like the lazy mans Good Morning Checkin thread with some firewood scrounging mixed in. On a side note the Good Morning Checkin thread has so many posts it is almost impossible to keep up if you not on there every day. I feel like this thread is more like hangin out at the cabin with the guys bs thread.

Keeping with the off topic trend. The kiddos are up mommy is cranky. I sent her sleepy, grouchy butt back to bed, and made a 6oz cup of this stuff I got at the discount grocery store. The only think that makes sense on the label is 100% pure coffee and espresso. Dang is this stuff good! Give me two cups of this stuff and 10 minutes and I will take over the world..... zing (no hazelnut creamer needed).

 

[nomad_archer]

That thing is really dirty. Don't you want to clean it up a bit before reassembly?

Maybe pop it in the dishwasher?

 

[nomad_archer]

I have also seen many articles on brush bucking, and have my own experiences. Took my second deer with the 348 Winchester, a great gun/caliber. The bullet punched through a 1" sapling, entered behind the shoulder and exited the middle of the chest. The deer dropped in 30 yds, and the blood trail looked like you poured out a bucket of red paint. But as my eyes got older, open sights were no longer a good choice.

Most studies conclude that harder bullets buck brush better (FMJ being the best), but they are not good for hunting. Conversely, I have had factory 130 gr 270 bullets deflect so wildly it was hard to believe. Velocity, rate of twist, and bullet construction are all in play, and the 130 grain bullets were designed for long range and were far too soft to handle early contact with brush.

I have conducted numerous ballistic tests on bullets, and keep track of how fast the do or don't open, and how uniform they remain, etc. I am convinced that a bullet that opens too fast, and not uniformly (a mushroom that is angled) will deflect more than a bullet that opens more slowly and is symmetrical.

As such, I like the Barns bullets as the mushroom always seems to be symmetrical.

My second deer came after I put a 1oz 12ga slug through a 1" sapling and through the deer 2' beyond the sapling. She went about 100 yards with only a few drops of blood and fell over dead. Fat plugged the wound. Good thing we had snow or tracking would have been difficult. That was back when there was a healthy huntable deer population at camp. Ahh the good old days.

I did have a deflection last year on off of a tiny twig. It took that 30 cal nosler NBT and deflected it from middle rib cage to bottom rib cage where all I got was white hair and some fat in about a foot. Deflections happen. I have gotten some shots through that once I got to the deer I have no idea how it made it. Like last year I hit the only twig between me and the deer. Funny how things work out.

 

[farmer steve]

Happy thanksgiving! Those 25-06 are nice calibers. I kind of want a 7mm-08 to compliment my 300 win mag. But the Game commission now has the ability to include semi's for hunting so I want to give that a few years and see what happens. I may need to get a larger caliber AR of some sort because I like them but could never justify buying a gun I couldn't hunt with.

As for the 270 it is a flat shooting gun but flat shooting doesn't mean anything once wind gets involved. I like the 300 win mag when shooting at distance since it can handle heavier bullets and still has enough energy down range to take care of business. Now in a applied sense for hunting in PA anything will work. I don't think I have ever had a shot at a deer over 100 yards. I sight my rifle in at 200 yards so in a hunting situation there is no thinking about distance just point and shoot.

don't worry about any long shots monday NA. i'll tie your deer up at less than 50 yards.

One could wax poetic all day on the various calibers and the rifles that fire them. I've had many but my all time fave is the Winchester model 94 pre '94 with the transfer bar safeguard and angle eject. In of course the venerable 30-30. It would put 3 170gr Remington's into a silver dollar at 100 yds. 5 would start to walk up a bit but one Should be all you need. 2-7 power scope left on 2 when walking made for fast target acquisition. Cranked higher while in the stand. A joy to carry, you feel those extra pounds in the woods! My boy killed his first deer with it. Yep. My $200 Walmart special put a lot of meat on the table. It was a good tool that fit well and always worked. Wasn't hunting fields with it, mostly cutover and woods. Knocked em down good within its intended range. I let it go and shouldn't have. If I could have one gun back, it would be that one.
......oh yeah....it had a wood stock...coulda been scrounged....am I still on topic? Lol

i was waiting for the "best" deer gun to be brought up in this conversation. mine has served me well over the last 50 years. it worked so good i never needed another gun. my wife bought me a remington .270 10 years ago for christmas otherwise i'd still be using the 30-30 for all my deer hunting.

 

[benp]

Man is this thread going off topic. Hunting and saws now lol. What happened to scrounging firewood?

I blame it on it being a holiday, too many snacks, and triptophan. It always comes back.

Scrounging, you say? Well, do I have some good news. Firstly, I didn't die from snake, spider, scorpion or drop bear attacks today. Secondly, look who's back!

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Looking good Limby! Understandably, after two weeks getting a new ignition unit, he was hungry so he had noodles.

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Into the trunk of the bluegum now, more or less, still a bit branchy. Might as well noodle at a comfortable height.

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The wood is getting bigger.

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It is much slower going now and I would probably be more productive finding another tree somewhere else but this has become a mission. I have to. Because it's there.

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I'm sure you'll understand.

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Dang Cowboy!!!!!

Fantastic!!!! That's a lot of noodling!!! Looks like the 661 did A-OK!!!!

Scenery is great also!!!

Off topic?!?! We are right on topic. Go back a few hundred pages, this is a trend. Everything is fair game, hunting, fishing, guns, bows, wine, beer, exercise, bikes, cars, snowblowers, boats, MAPLE SYRUP, etc. I think we talked about Maple Syrup for like two weeks or more. This is like the lazy mans Good Morning Checkin thread with some firewood scrounging mixed in. On a side note the Good Morning Checkin thread has so many posts it is almost impossible to keep up if you not on there every day. I feel like this thread is more like hangin out at the cabin with the guys bs thread.

Keeping with the off topic trend. The kiddos are up mommy is cranky. I sent her sleepy, grouchy butt back to bed, and made a 6oz cup of this stuff I got at the discount grocery store. The only think that makes sense on the label is 100% pure coffee and espresso. Dang is this stuff good! Give me two cups of this stuff and 10 minutes and I will take over the world..... zing (no hazelnut creamer needed).

I totally agree although I wouldn't exactly call it the "Lazy Man's..." Lol

 

[nomad_archer]

I totally agree although I wouldn't exactly call it the "Lazy Man's..." Lol

I ment lazy in the sense that the thread doenst have 7 new pages of posts every 2 hours and if you miss a day or two you have a chance to catch up. None of us are lazy or we wouldn't be scrounging firewood. Maybe I should have used leisurely. This thread has a much more manageable pace than the GM checkin.

 

[nomad_archer]

don't worry about any long shots monday NA. i'll tie you deer up at less than 50 yards.


i was waiting for the "best" deer gun to be brought up in this conversation. mine has served me well over the last 50 years. it worked so good i never needed another gun. my wife bought me a Remington .270 10 years ago for christmas otherwise i'd still be using the 30-30 for all my deer hunting.

Make sure you walk that deer over on a leash for me. The best deer gun in my opinion is that one that fits the shooter correctly and they can shoot well. Anything from a 223 - 338 Lapua will work on a deer. There i no best caliber just personal preferences and opinions. By the way your 30-30 has a lot of character. I think I may eventually end up with 2 or 3 big game rifles that fit me well and that is all I will ever need. Right now I have 1 rifle that fits pretty well and one that is marginal on fit. I don't like that gun much but it was a hand me down. The 300 win I hunt with is way overkill for deer but that gun fits me well (when I dont put on too many layers) and I shoot it well so the decision to use it is easy.

 

[benp]

I ment lazy in the sense that the thread doenst have 7 new pages of posts every 2 hours and if you miss a day or two you have a chance to catch up. None of us are lazy or we wouldn't be scrounging firewood. Maybe I should have use leisurely. This thread has a much more manageable pace than the GM checkin.

Lol. Just giving you a hard time.

I agree

 

[JustJeff]

Scrounging, you say? Well, do I have some good news. Firstly, I didn't die from snake, spider, scorpion or drop bear attacks today. Secondly, look who's back!

View attachment 539181

Looking good Limby! Understandably, after two weeks getting a new ignition unit, he was hungry so he had noodles.

View attachment 539182

Into the trunk of the bluegum now, more or less, still a bit branchy. Might as well noodle at a comfortable height.

View attachment 539183

View attachment 539184

The wood is getting bigger.

View attachment 539185

It is much slower going now and I would probably be more productive finding another tree somewhere else but this has become a mission. I have to. Because it's there.

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I'm sure you'll understand.

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Ok. I'm not a moderator, but I move that if we all "like" statuses like cowboys here that gives us the right to one off topic post. Lol. All in favor?

 

[svk]

Off topic?!?! We are right on topic. Go back a few hundred pages, this is a trend. Everything is fair game, hunting, fishing, guns, bows, wine, beer, exercise, bikes, cars, snowblowers, boats, MAPLE SYRUP, etc. I think we talked about Maple Syrup for like two weeks or more. This is like the lazy mans Good Morning Checkin thread with some firewood scrounging mixed in. On a side note the Good Morning Checkin thread has so many posts it is almost impossible to keep up if you not on there every day. I feel like this thread is more like hangin out at the cabin with the guys bs thread.

Keeping with the off topic trend. The kiddos are up mommy is cranky. I sent her sleepy, grouchy butt back to bed, and made a 6oz cup of this stuff I got at the discount grocery store. The only think that makes sense on the label is 100% pure coffee and espresso. Dang is this stuff good! Give me two cups of this stuff and 10 minutes and I will take over the world..... zing (no hazelnut creamer needed).

You missed whiskey and smoking meat

 

[JustJeff]

I've seen n_a mention fit a few times and that's really important. To me anyways. A gun you shoot well is a good gun. I had 2 shotguns, a Winchester and a Remington, same choke, couldn't hit squat with the winny but a hero with the 870. I even put a slip on recoil pad in the 30-30 to increase length of the stock. Got a little razzing about it and my girlie shoulder. Lol, but I have thick skin and it worked for me.

Now according to the new rules (should my motion pass) I have to at least like a firewood post or post one myself before another off topic post. Dang, gonna have to run a saw!

 

[svk]

I'm all for a random page or two of OT posting but I think this thread has a good manageable flow. Now that folks answer every post individually in GMCI there's just too much bandwidth with too little real content to make it worth my reading when the thing can run up 10 or so pages in a day.

I'd put a deer rifle thread over in the Outdoors forum but it's a dead zone over there.

 

[nomad_archer]

I'm all for a random page or two of OT posting but I think this thread has a good manageable flow. Now that folks answer every post individually in GMCI there's just too much bandwidth with too little real content to make it worth my reading when the thing can run up 10 or so pages in a day.

I'd put a deer rifle thread over in the Outdoors forum but it's a dead zone over there.

We tend to keep it interesting in here. We did get way way way OT on guns about this time last year and we got moved into a different thread and some of us almost got put in time out -> http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/guns-and-stuff-from-firewood-scrounging-thread.290580/

Speaking of that thread has anyone heard from ambull?

 

[svk]

We tend to keep it interesting in here. We did get way way way OT on guns about this time last year and we got moved into a different thread and some of us almost got put in time out -> http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/guns-and-stuff-from-firewood-scrounging-thread.290580/

Speaking of that thread has anyone heard from ambull?

I PM'd him a while back and he was doing fine just didn't have time to be on forums. IIRC he's in the guards, works another job, scrounges, and has little kids so that's understandable. He was a good member though and hope he'll drop in some time. I sent him a garage sale axe I scored for a dollar, hope he's putting it to good use.