Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[Just a Guy that cuts wood]

Pretty decent day in the woods, cool breeze, peace & quiet, and easy access to these downed sticks.
Stopped by and spoke with a Real Estate Developer & he said he needed this stuff gone asap...its about 1 mile from my house!View attachment 542902 View attachment 542903 View attachment 542904 View attachment 542910 View attachment 542908 View attachment 542909
Got a chance to see what the 026 & 038 Mag were made out...kinda.
Btw...got a bet riding that this was red oak (it was in a natural stand), my bud says pin oak?
Whats you guys thoughts?

Split one but from the bark it's red
When you are done give the dog a belly rub

 

[nomad_archer]

Split one but from the bark it's red
View attachment 542977 View attachment 542980 When you are done give the dog a belly rub

I am seeing that it is red now on some of the smaller rounds. Its tough with pictures. In person its really quite easy its a smell texture thing for me. So through pictures I pretty much suck at id'ing wood.

My back is starting to hurt just looking at those rounds in your picture. I hope your not picking those up.

 

[Just a Guy that cuts wood]

I am seeing that it is red now on some of the smaller rounds. Its tough with pictures. In person its really quite easy its a smell texture thing for me. So through pictures I pretty much suck at id'ing wood.

My back is starting to hurt just looking at those rounds in your picture. I hope your not picking those up.

Roll on the trailer split at homeThis is today project
I am 6ft 2 in 240 lbs 28 inches half way up the tree 44 at the notch
Heading out should have more pic's tonight

 

[woodchip rookie]

Oh yea well my 14" poulan cuts up popsicle sticks like a champ.

 

[Philbert]

. . . the new holland doesn't have a very wide stance and it always seems a little tippy to me. . . . i have a roll bar but i rarely use the seat belt 'cause i want to be able to JUMP!!

Farmer Steve - not sure if you are joking or serious. But I work in safety, and a large percentage of guys killed in roll over incidents are crushed by their equipment, or their ROPS / FOPS, after getting thrown off.

Guys who stay with the machine do better.

Philbert

 

[farmer steve]

Farmer Steve - not sure if you are joking or serious. But I work in safety, and a large percentage of guys killed in roll over incidents are crushed by their equipment, or their ROPS / FOPS, after getting thrown off.

Guys who stay with the machine do better.

Philbert

about half and half Philbert. i guess it would depend on the situation. i have farmed most of my life and am well aware of rollovers. a friend of mine's father was killed when he flipped a farmall h while dragging logs.

 

[hardpan]

Pretty decent day in the woods, cool breeze, peace & quiet, and easy access to these downed sticks.
Stopped by and spoke with a Real Estate Developer & he said he needed this stuff gone asap...its about 1 mile from my house!View attachment 542902 View attachment 542903 View attachment 542904 View attachment 542910 View attachment 542908 View attachment 542909
Got a chance to see what the 026 & 038 Mag were made out...kinda.
Btw...got a bet riding that this was red oak (it was in a natural stand), my bud says pin oak?
Whats you guys thoughts?

I don't see any standing pin oak in your photo. The profile of pin oak is different from red oak and most other oaks. The trunk is typically straight and centered with no major heavy limbs. The limbs on the bottom half of the tree will slope downward. The limbs on the top half of the tree will slope upwards and a few in the middle will run almost horizontal. Grown in the open and left untrimmed the bottom limbs will sometimes touch the ground and form a cavity or "room" beneath the lower limbs. The fresh cuts do smell like urine and commonly called piss oak around here. Personally I think it is beautiful tree, a great yard tree, no big limbs to break off from storms, and the smallish limbs are real tough. In firewood form I am not sure if I can tell the difference between pin and red oak if not bucked at a limb location. This is just a picture I found on the net.

 

[MustangMike]

Sounds similar to Black Oak, all 3 are in the Red Oak family.

Nice amount of wood in that tree, good score! I have already delivered 14.5 cord this year, could use a few like that for next year! Actually, I kinda have one, but I'm thinking of milling it, decisions, decisions!

 

[ReggieT]

I don't see any standing pin oak in your photo. The profile of pin oak is different from red oak and most other oaks. The trunk is typically straight and centered with no major heavy limbs. The limbs on the bottom half of the tree will slope downward. The limbs on the top half of the tree will slope upwards and a few in the middle will run almost horizontal. Grown in the open and left untrimmed the bottom limbs will sometimes touch the ground and form a cavity or "room" beneath the lower limbs. The fresh cuts do smell like urine and commonly called piss oak around here. Personally I think it is beautiful tree, a great yard tree, no big limbs to break off from storms, and the smallish limbs are real tough. In firewood form I am not sure if I can tell the difference between pin and red oak if not bucked at a limb location. This is just a picture I found on the net.

Thanks Hardpan for the pic & info, really helpful.
Here is a pic of an attached dried leaflet & some splits which should help with the ID.

 

[nomad_archer]

Thanks Hardpan for the pic & info, really helpful.
Here is a pic of an attached dried leaflet & some splits which should help with the ID.

That's red oak 100% no questions asked. The splits and the leaves tell the story. Thanks for the extra follow up. Pin oak leaves are very different google them.

 

[ReggieT]

That's red oak 100% no questions asked. The splits and the leaves tell the story. Thanks for the extra follow up. Pin oak leaves are very different google them.

 

[hardpan]

I look at that leaf and I think oak yes, red oak well probably. There are variations and someone educated in this field could probably explain. Red oak is likely the best splitting of the oaks. You have a good find. Enjoy. This is the red oak leaf I am familiar with.

 

[ReggieT]

I look at that leaf and I think oak yes, red oak well probably. There are variations and someone educated in this field could probably explain. Red oak is likely the best splitting of the oaks. You have a good find. Enjoy. This is the red oak leaf I am familiar with.

Hardpan, you are a gentleman & a scholar...and they're rare around these parts!
Appreciate it.
It splits like a dream!!

 

[dancan]

Farmer Steve - not sure if you are joking or serious. But I work in safety, and a large percentage of guys killed in roll over incidents are crushed by their equipment, or their ROPS / FOPS, after getting thrown off.

Guys who stay with the machine do better.

Philbert

Good point , documented and I'm guilty but still safer than one without ROPS .
That being said it is not an excuse .
I be thinking and reaching especially when on the slopes .
I haven't bypassed any of the starter safety's on any of the tractors I have

I'll up my life insurance payout .

 

[MustangMike]

My version of a Red Oak leaf is more like Hardpan's. I split some big Chestnut Oak by hand a few years ago (part of the White Oak family), and I don't remember it being hard to split. The leaf tips on Chestnut are rounded, and the bard is deeply furrowed.

I think what you cut is on the Red Oak side of the Oaks, but I don't think it is "standard" Red Oak.

 

[Just a Guy that cuts wood]

Had a slow start ICE


At the site

I have a new to me Jonsereds 801
it's a runner two trailers on job today
1 brings the tools & 2 can hall a cord plus 4 foot sides


Not a bad day Still more to pickup on next trip

 

[Philbert]

Good point , documented and I'm guilty but still safer than one without ROPS .

about half and half Philbert.

IF anyone is interested:

http://nasdonline.org/7232/d002442/tractor-overturns.html

https://www.osha.gov/Publications/OSHA3835.pdf

https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blog/2009/01/05/rops/

On a related topic, guys who don't realize that they can get thrown / dropped / catapulted from buckets / lifts:

http://blog.arborist.com/tcia-reports-2013-tree-care-accidents/

http://www.elcosh.org/document/1417/d000484/Deaths+From+Aerial+Lifts.html?show_text=1

Philbert

(quick summary - you have a better survival chance staying buckled in / on then being thrown)

OK - back to your regular programing . . . . .

 

[cantoo]

Philbert, we lost a young neighbour when he flipped his tractor carrying a round bale of hay. They had a Massey with a folding rollbar, barn was a little too low for the bar so they usually had it folded down. He was feeding round bales and drove into the bale a little too close to one side, turned into the barn on a slight hill and it flipped over and the bar pinned him. Took hours to die trapped under the bar. His wife found him later that night when he didn't come to the home farm for supper. Had another neighbour that was skidding a log with an old 8n hooked up high, he was driving along the edge of a river back and the butt end of the log manages to hook into a half buried rock. Was enough to lift the front wheels of the tractor, as it came back down he scrambled to hold onto the steering wheel, pulled too hard ton one side and went over the bank. Tractor rolled and pinned him under water, he drowned. Son was behind him and seen whole thing, it was over before he got off his tractor.
On the other hand I have Steiners and most come with roll bars on them. I take them off right away as we very seldom use them on hills. They are more dangerous when driving under low hanging branches. My wife stood one on end one day when she caught a branch while lawn spraying. Luckily the branch broke before she went right over.
Gotta use common sense no matter what we do.

 

[MustangMike]

Man, there are a lot of Oaks out there, including Southern Red, Georgia & Bear that have leaves that look similar to yours.

 

[svk]

It's -2 on it's way to -9 tonight.

I have the sauna going so after I am done I will put tomorrow's saws on the floor in there once I am done steaming off. They will be nice and toasty and will ride in the cab tomorrow morning.

The wood truck fired right up at 0 degrees this morning after sitting for over a month. So hopefully the temps tomorrow shouldn't trouble her.