Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[chipper1]

Yes I do. And that thing is a ripper with ole shorty on it.

I'm more impressed with the 241 than I was with the 261. 261 just left me "blah" running a 16" bar with 3/8 chain. Maybe it would have done better with some picco or .325

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I have a 14" B&C if you ever want to try it out.
Mine has a 16 on it, but it seems like it's a bit shorter than the 16 on my 2145, I will have to measure them to see now.
I like to run a short bar, but having at least one 50cc saw set up with an 18 is nice for the reach, and then another with a 16 for bucking up smaller stuff I don't have to reach for.
What bar do you run on your 441, I ran a 24 most times. I really enjoyed running the 441 as it was a very smooth saw, and I still like the exhaust note. It seems most of the autotune /mtronic saws have a similar sound, and I like it, music to my ears .
How is the big city scrounge coming along.

I'm not sure if I'm coming down with some sort of an internet virus I got from you guys or someone in the GMT, but since I went to the Chiropractor today I've had a headache , maybe I should have my uvula looked at, "open up and say ". Seriously one of the oddest scrounging wood thread conversations I've ever seen here lol. I've had many problems with all the above as well though, sorry yous guys are having to deal with it all, @cantoo hope you feel better soon.

 

[chipper1]

Ha! Not sure I want to find out which way I'm wider. Being on the scrounge most days for the last couple of weeks hasn't done me any harm in that respect.

I've been to the US several times. The people I was billeted with the first time became great friends of my family and their daughter, then nine years old, eventually came out to OZ and ended up married to my brother-in-law. So I've been back there a few times, that was New Hampshire. I did my post-grad down in Austin TX and have also been skiing at Lake Tahoe. Always enjoyed my trips over there.

Our termites do chow down on our houses, it's one of my fears with a mostly timber house. I'm pretty careful with the wood I bring home to make sure there aren't any/many in it, and the wood shed is about 20m from the house for that reason. Some of the wood I brought home this time has termites in it and by splitting it up next to the meat ant nest, they'll be all over it and clear out any termite that falls out or sticks its head out to have a look around. I'll stack that out in the open near the ant nest and burn it first next winter.

LOL. I was looking out back today and I was thinking about this. I bet you couldn't fire a rifle from my house straight into the woods and have a round go much farther than 100yds with out aiming for a slot carefully, there are just to many trees, I really like it here .

That is a cool story about your now SIL (or whatever she would be), little did they know how they were serving your needs and hers were being met at the same time, I like that.
Skiing at Lake Tahoe sounds like a nice time, you sure got round as a teen, your very fortunate .

That's cool how the meat ants eat them right up .
I keep my trusty little torch by the hydraulic splitter or near when splitting by hand and when I see ant's come out of them I torch them all. My son really likes to help with this part, but can get a little crazy with the torch and will be burning any single ant on the splitter or what ever, like my pants . He's getting better and realizes there are consequences like not getting to use the torch that help him to focus . Sorry I don't have a picture of him burning my leg, but here's the little torch I use.

 

[svk]

I have a 14" B&C if you ever want to try it out.
Mine has a 16 on it, but it seems like it's a bit shorter than the 16 on my 2145, I will have to measure them to see now.
I like to run a short bar, but having at least one 50cc saw set up with an 18 is nice for the reach, and then another with a 16 for bucking up smaller stuff I don't have to reach for.
What bar do you run on your 441, I ran a 24 most times. I really enjoyed running the 441 as it was a very smooth saw, and I still like the exhaust note. It seems most of the autotune /mtronic saws have a similar sound, and I like it, music to my ears .
How is the big city scrounge coming along.

I'm not sure if I'm coming down with some sort of an internet virus I got from you guys or someone in the GMT, but since I went to the Chiropractor today I've had a headache , maybe I should have my uvula looked at, "open up and say ". Seriously one of the oddest scrounging wood thread conversations I've ever seen here lol. I've had many problems with all the above as well though, sorry yous guys are having to deal with it all, @cantoo hope you feel better soon.

Can't wait to try mine with the 12" and some sharp PS.

We like short bars and sharp chain!

 

[kingOFgEEEks]

Can't wait to try mine with the 12" and some sharp PS.

We like short bars and sharp chain!

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Holy crap. With that little 12", you could lower the rakers to like .050 or more and still have enough guts to pull it. That needs a race filed chain on it for sure.

 

[chipper1]

Can't wait to try mine with the 12" and some sharp PS.

We like short bars and sharp chain!

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Looks fun, just need a smooth bumper and to lose the spike.
Is that a 16 on the 562 .
You know I like to give you a hard time about all the 16" B&C, but they are fun to play with like that for sure. I was thinking of getting a few large mount 18"x.058 for the 2166 or the 272. We'll see if I get them since I already should the 272 and I'm thinking the 2166 will be gone shortly, but It would be pretty cool to have them around wether it sells or not.
Do you want one for the 2186 .

 

[CaseyForrest]

What bar do you run on your 441, I ran a 24 most times.

Usually a 20". Now that I have a 661 sitting in the stable, anything over 20" will go on it.

 

[cantoo]

Princess Auto today. Log cart Reg $ 220, was $35 on clearance, got a ramp too Reg $140, was $56 before taxes.

 

[tpence2177]

Princess Auto today. Log cart Reg $ 220, was $35 on clearance, got a ramp too Reg $140, was $56 before taxes.
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Wow that's awesome I wish I could find some deals on a log cart!

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[svk]

Looks fun, just need a smooth bumper and to lose the spike.
Is that a 16 on the 562 .
You know I like to give you a hard time about all the 16" B&C, but they are fun to play with like that for sure. I was thinking of getting a few large mount 18"x.058 for the 2166 or the 272. We'll see if I get them since I already should the 272 and I'm thinking the 2166 will be gone shortly, but It would be pretty cool to have them around wether it sells or not.
Do you want one for the 2186 .

I have one 16" large husky I pass around. That's what was on the 562 in that pic.

Since most of the trees I cut are right at the 16" diameter range I like the 16 because it keeps the tip out of dirt or rocks. If I'm cutting a larger tree I'll use the 20, 24, or 28 inch bar to drop them and start bucking from the base up.

Some folks say bar length doesn't matter but to me I seem to feel a difference.

 

[chipper1]

Usually a 20". Now that I have a 661 sitting in the stable, anything over 20" will go on it.

Nice. What big bars do you run on that beast.

I have one 16" large husky I pass around. That's what was on the 562 in that pic.

Since most of the trees I cut are right at the 16" diameter range I like the 16 because it keeps the tip out of dirt or rocks. If I'm cutting a larger tree I'll use the 20, 24, or 28 inch bar to drop them and start bucking from the base up.

Some folks say bar length doesn't matter but to me I seem to feel a difference.

Ok, my bad, I still just can't get it thru my head that that is a large mount saw. I hope I remember that if I ever got to buy one. Maybe I just better go get those 18" bars just in case, besides I have like 8-3/8"x.058 chains that would go right on them .
I've been passing the 16" small mount around a bit and it is a lot of fun.

I get that it's easy enough to reach over top a bit to make it a bit smaller bite as you come back down the front when bucking anyway. I like an 18 for the reach when limbing and when bucking smaller stuff on the ground as I don't need to bend over as much as with the 16. That little bit makes all the difference on my back. The 16 is also nice when working on the log pile as I'm not bending over as much and I won't be hitting other logs as much. I have a 28 on the way for the 461/660 and I'm looking forward to that as the 36 is to long most times and the 24 is to short to waste breaking out on a 660 when I have a bunch of 70cc saws that have no problem with a 24. Hopefully the 28 will bridge the gap.

Not sure who would say that or why.

 

[MustangMike]

My MTronic saw usually starts in about as many pulls as it takes my other saws to pop.

The reset procedure I have used (and I have seen various versions, but this seems to work): Start saw in "Start", and let it idle in Start for 90 sec (min 60). Shut the saw down. Start saw in "Run" position and let idle for 90 seconds, and shut it down. Start saw in "Run" position and cut several good sized rounds.

I would not do the reset unless the saw does not clear itself up after a few more sessions. MTronic learns & remembers things.

Hey, I didn't even know I had one of them UV things in my throat!

 

[MustangMike]

I have a 28 on the way for the 461/660

I really like my 28" "light" bar, but they are not cheap! The 28" is only a bit longer than the 24. In reality, instead of calling the 24" bar a 25" bar (which they now do), they should have called the 28" bar a 27" bar.

 

[chipper1]

My MTronic saw usually starts in about as many pulls as it takes my other saws to pop.

The reset procedure I have used (and I have seen various versions, but this seems to work): Start saw in "Start", and let it idle in Start for 90 sec (min 60). Shut the saw down. Start saw in "Run" position and let idle for 90 seconds, and shut it down. Start saw in "Run" position and cut several good sized rounds.

I would not do the reset unless the saw does not clear itself up after a few more sessions. MTronic learns & remembers things.

Hey, I didn't even know I had one of them UV things in my throat!

What you doing up so late Mike.
Which mtronic saw do you have.
I've had the 441 and now the 241 and I have liked both. I have had the 550 in the autotune and the 555. The only one that ever acted strange was the 550 and it just stumbled a bit and then it was fine and it also stalled a few times. I sold it which had nothing to do with that and the guy says he loves it and I told him it did that before he bought it and he said it's never done it to him. It was a later model saw so it should have had no problems as some of the earlier ones did.

I really like my 28" "light" bar, but they are not cheap! The 28" is only a bit longer than the 24. In reality, instead of calling the 24" bar a 25" bar (which they now do), they should have called the 28" bar a 27" bar.

To be honest I've never seen it before other than all wrapped up, it was a bonus deal in a saw purchase, so I will be happy lite or "heavy" lol.
I would like a small mount husky in one of the lightweight bars in an 18, and a 20 for my 044.

 

[Cowboy254]

Out to the farm again this morning. I loaded up the trailer first with previously cut stuff and even though it was only 8.45am, I was dripping sweat by the time it was done. As the morning went on, however, the temperature rose but the humidity dropped so it wasn't too bad when I pulled out the saws. I had a companion again today. You might have your stealthy Bobcats over there, but I had the Bobdog.



Bob's not very stealthy. Werf!



The 460 made that cut down the middle (below) last time but here's Limby posing this morning.



It was the moment of truth. I still don't have a semi-chisel chain and the full chisel chain now has burrs pointing backwards on the cutters and I couldn't sharpen it effectively so I took it to my grinder guy to see if he can straighten it out. I put a brand spanking new carbide chain on Limby. Limby, please work. Don't make me beat you.



Well that's a relief. All the same, Limby committed a minor crime yesterday. The sentence today: 2 hours hard labour.



No Limby related hissy-fits today. We've also hit green wood in the trunk which speeds things up heaps. Cutting green bluegum is not a lot different to any other green hardwood but when dry it takes ages and wreaks destruction on chains.



More pics to come...

 

[Jeffkrib]

I think your blue gum is not the same as our Sydney blue gum. The stuff around here is as red as red gum and not that dense, quite easy to cut. Loving the pics I think the guys are loving the landscape shots.

 

[nomad_archer]

Nice wood everyone. Saw some deer and had a great tour of York Co the last two days with FS. It was lots of fun. I just wanted to say something about a package I am waiting for. The package used one of those UPS to the post office for local delivery options. Well the local post office got my package on 11/25 and instead of delivering it, they decided to send it Maryland. Apparently it is still in Maryland. Hopefully I will get it before the new year. On the plus side at least they are still tracking and it has not just disappeared.

 

[MustangMike]

Nice looking puppy there Coyboy!

Chipper, I have a very early 362-M (first one sold by my dealer, in fact I made them order it in from the warehouse when the Stihl rep was visiting).

For the 044/440, a Stihl 20" E bar is very light, use em all the time. The ES is a lot heavier, but the E is within about 2oz of the premium light weight bars that cost much, much more.

 

[benp]

Nice. What big bars do you run on that beast.

Ok, my bad, I still just can't get it thru my head that that is a large mount saw. I hope I remember that if I ever got to buy one. Maybe I just better go get those 18" bars just in case, besides I have like 8-3/8"x.058 chains that would go right on them .
I've been passing the 16" small mount around a bit and it is a lot of fun.

I get that it's easy enough to reach over top a bit to make it a bit smaller bite as you come back down the front when bucking anyway. I like an 18 for the reach when limbing and when bucking smaller stuff on the ground as I don't need to bend over as much as with the 16. That little bit makes all the difference on my back. The 16 is also nice when working on the log pile as I'm not bending over as much and I won't be hitting other logs as much. I have a 28 on the way for the 461/660 and I'm looking forward to that as the 36 is to long most times and the 24 is to short to waste breaking out on a 660 when I have a bunch of 70cc saws that have no problem with a 24. Hopefully the 28 will bridge the gap.

Not sure who would say that or why.

I have both 24 and 28 bars on my Dolmars.

The 28 does bridge the gap between the 32 and 24 and is no more unwieldy than the 24. No appreciable change in balance either.

I have found that my Dolmars "feel" heavier with a 20" bar compared to the 24 and up. I figure that's just do to balancing better with the 24 and 28.

The 32 is the sweet spot on my 394. Actually I have only run it with a 32 or 36. The 36 completely changed the balance for me so I just have it hanging on the wall just in case I need it for something large.

The 394 now wears a Tsumura Light. I really like the Tsumura/Total bars.

Nice looking puppy there Coyboy!

Chipper, I have a very early 362-M (first one sold by my dealer, in fact I made them order it in from the warehouse when the Stihl rep was visiting).

For the 044/440, a Stihl 20" E bar is very light, use em all the time. The ES is a lot heavier, but the E is within about 2oz of the premium light weight bars that cost much, much more.

Mike have you checked out the Total Light bars? They are Tsumura bars that are branded Total. Imo, they are very reasonably priced for a very good lightweight bar.

ETA - Just checked out the prices for Stihl light bars on Baileys.

Screw that noise. The Total Lights are A LOT cheaper.

 

[svk]

I haven't made the jump to light bars yet. Too damn many saws to equip.

I keep an eye out for deals on the trading post and places like LCS and Baileys.

 

[chipper1]

Nice looking puppy there Coyboy!

Chipper, I have a very early 362-M (first one sold by my dealer, in fact I made them order it in from the warehouse when the Stihl rep was visiting).

For the 044/440, a Stihl 20" E bar is very light, use em all the time. The ES is a lot heavier, but the E is within about 2oz of the premium light weight bars that cost much, much more.

Sure is some great looking wood, and it also looks as hard as can be, dang.

Know I remember, also it's right in your signature which I looked at last night .
Guess it's hard to look at a 362 when there are all the 044/460's in there .
I've never ran a 362c-m(would like to though ), but did have a 362 and thought it was a turd in stock form, but many saws are, even some of the best ones. The 310 is a great example of a farm ranch/plastic case one, 359 for the mid grade pro build "farm ranch", and even the 660 total pro big turd compared to an 066 at least in stock form.

I do run a 20" E on it many times as well as an 18"E or a 24" ES. I agree that the light bars are very costly, especially when I have E bars come thru the house on a normal basis and I don't even burn many of them up.

I have both 24 and 28 bars on my Dolmars.

The 28 does bridge the gap between the 32 and 24 and is no more unwieldy than the 24. No appreciable change in balance either.

I have found that my Dolmars "feel" heavier with a 20" bar compared to the 24 and up. I figure that's just do to balancing better with the 24 and 28.

The 32 is the sweet spot on my 394. Actually I have only run it with a 32 or 36. The 36 completely changed the balance for me so I just have it hanging on the wall just in case I need it for something large.

The 394 now wears a Tsumura Light. I really like the Tsumura/Total bars.



Mike have you checked out the Total Light bars? They are Tsumura bars that are branded Total. Imo, they are very reasonably priced for a very good lightweight bar.

ETA - Just checked out the prices for Stihl light bars on Baileys.

Screw that noise. The Total Lights are A LOT cheaper.

Good stuff Ben.
I wonder how much different the 28 is between the stills and the husky. As mike was saying the "25" in a stihl is a 24 in the husky, seems they are trying to compensate for something .
I would really like to get another 32 as I have at least one brand new chain and a couple used for it.
I totally get what your saying as far as the feel of being heavier. The 272 I just sold felt light compared to other saws with the 24 Tsumura on it, it's a well balanced saw and as @SawTroll would say with the outboard clutch it has very good balance, and he's right as it is not a 346 light saber, but it is an easy to wield 70cc saw even though it's heavier than some of the other options I have available.

The Tsumura 24" off a Jred, I don't think it will ever wear out.

I haven't made the jump to light bars yet. Too damn many saws to equip.

I keep an eye out for deals on the trading post and places like LCS and Baileys.

I would like to get an 18" small mount in the lightweight just as something I want, I don't do that often and can't see myself doing it now, but I have been known to buy something take off the part I want and then resell it for what I initially paid .