Scrub pad air filter?

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I bought some TwinAir foam filter sheets (coarse pores bonded to finer pores) to make filters for a GasGas Trials bike. OEM was something like $20 for a flat panel filter about 4 x8 inches, and long time to order. I made them for $2 each, have about 10 cleaned and preoiled and just changed them out. Very efificient on dust collection, breath well (after I figured out i was oiling them way too much with too thick an oil. The TwinAir oil worked great. )

edit: they were listed as industrial panel filters, maybe 10 years ago. I dind't spend much time on the site below now to see if the material is still sold in flat sheets.

This was abut 1 to 1.5 cm thick. flat sheets abut 12 inches x 16 inches.

Twin Air Filter

Might be a lifetime supply of chainsaw filters...

I checked on Twin Air for this very cause a few years ago. . . There was an eBay seller over in the UK selling it -- but I couldn't find one here (for the bulk flat).

I'll check the website again and see what's up?
 
Same dude is selling the Twin Air that I found last time. . . They have great feedback too. Don't think it'd be too bad to order a jag of this stuff from Latvia.

The price is okay too.


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I have a large roll of the white scotch brite if you want try it, I'll send you some. I also have some stuff here that they use as filter screen in the windows of turkey barns. It is blue and doesn't have the abrasive feel as scotch brite if you some of that I have a couple 100 feet of it and I promise you it don't have turkey crap on it:)
 
16+ hours the foam pad has been soaking in mix (40:1 for you nosey nosertons :laugh:). . . No degradation of the yellow part, or the green part -- at all.

Just like the Mythbusters would say, "I'm going to confirm that the yellow 3M kitchen sponge is a viable option for an air filter."

With this said. . . I think it'd do fer a pinch hit deal, and for a long time. . . BUT!

I also think the stuff from Twin Air is worth ordering from the link above -- and it'd last a guy a long time.

And I'll stick with my cooking spray oil. . . I don't need no fancy pants filter oil. :msp_thumbup:
 
I have a large roll of the white scotch brite if you want try it, I'll send you some. I also have some stuff here that they use as filter screen in the windows of turkey barns. It is blue and doesn't have the abrasive feel as scotch brite if you some of that I have a couple 100 feet of it and I promise you it don't have turkey crap on it:)

I appreciate it brother! But my testing is done with this experiment. :D

Now if someone else wants to have a go? . .
 
yeap scotchbrite aint good.it has loose particles that get sucked into the bore.bought a little echo cs300 where someone had made a scotchbrite filter for it.results from a brown coarse pad was 75lbs compression. :(
 
I have a large roll of the white scotch brite if you want try it, I'll send you some. I also have some stuff here that they use as filter screen in the windows of turkey barns. It is blue and doesn't have the abrasive feel as scotch brite if you some of that I have a couple 100 feet of it and I promise you it don't have turkey crap on it:)

Most of the air filter media they sell in rolls have a waxy substance coating the fabric, to catch the more fine particles since it wont catch small airborne particles. I have some, but I dont have the bowls to try it :(
 
I think that a flow bench would help find out which scrub pad would be the best filter. You could take a regular OEM filter and put it below the scrub pad and run different types of saw dust or sand...whatever material through the scotch brite and see what it is or isn't being trapped by looking at the original filter and seeing what has went through the scrub pad. A flow bench would also let you know what CFM the pads are therefore letting you know if it would be too restrictive to use as an actual filter. A flow bench would also keep you from ruining a vintage saw that id bet is hard to find parts (like an air filter). :msp_smile:
 
These kitchen pads are available without abrasive backs, and in larger sizes.

If it were me doing it, I would opt for a plain sponge with no abrasive backing.

I would also oil it as described before, to catch fines.

Flow benches are nice, but I only know one or two saw builders in all these years to make and use one, and they aren't around to help in this adventure.

Remember fellas, this was an exercise in "Can it work"? I think it can work -- are there some better options out there? There sure are.
 
As I said I have used exactly these sponges without the abrassive backing with good success. It wasn't a permanent replacement though in my case but I wouldn't have any qualms using one. Of course replacements are quite cheep.

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Here's the thread started by Mark about saving an air filter. These all have frame work. I did use a piece of flattened out pleated auto air filter to fix the one on my 041 which works very well.

http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/198040.htm

The Max Flo material that Mark used is reasonably priced & the seller will supply a piece to your size if you ask. I have used it on a few saws that filters are NLA, & also on some where it was less cost than OEM replacements.In all cases it has performed faultlessly.
 
SCOTCHBRITE - NO - WRONG!!! WILL DAMAGE ENGINE!!! Please Google Scotchbrite to see what they are made out of! The things they use to make them abrasive are also abrasive to metals, especially aluminum. Any small particles that break off and are drawn into the cylinder will abrade the cylinder and piston. Sometimes bending over to pickup a peso will cost you many pesos in the long run. I would use layers of open cell foam with a light coating of motor oil instead.
 

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