Skid sprayer help

[mattfr12]

Looking for a good skid sprayer that's gonna work well with a tree gun. I have been using a smaller 150 gallon unit but am going to bump up to a 3-400. With so many choices would be interested in hearing what others are using. I'm mainly going to be using it for EAB soil drenching and soil injection. Thanks.

 

[ATH]

Looking for a good skid sprayer that's gonna work well with a tree gun. I have been using a smaller 150 gallon unit but am going to bump up to a 3-400. With so many choices would be interested in hearing what others are using. I'm mainly going to be using it for EAB soil drenching and soil injection. Thanks.

Do you like the sprayer that you have besides the size of the tank?

If so can you just upgrade the tank? Or, how about add a nurse tank that you can refill the 150 gallon tank with? I did the nurse tank, and it has worked well.

I just don't see the need for big pressure/high volume stuff. It does not take much to do soil injections...

 

[2treeornot2tree]

I just picked up a lightly used 200 gallon skid sprayer with electric hose reel for $1600.

I think you would be better off, just adding a nurse tank, that you can just use to fill back up your tank with. I picked up a 500 gallon tank last year for $100.

The skid strayer I just got, has more ports to add another intake so you can have 2 tanks.

 

[mattfr12]

Never really thought of adding another tank. Going to try and just do that.

 

[mattfr12]

Do you like the sprayer that you have besides the size of the tank?

If so can you just upgrade the tank? Or, how about add a nurse tank that you can refill the 150 gallon tank with? I did the nurse tank, and it has worked well.

I just don't see the need for big pressure/high volume stuff. It does not take much to do soil injections...

Your right I've seen it done with a pump up backpack unit. But good lord you better have some time on your hands if you're doing a bunch of trees. Mine will actually spray pretty good it's only got like a 5hp Honda.

 

[treeclimber101]

Your right I've seen it done with a pump up backpack unit. But good lord you better have some time on your hands if you're doing a bunch of trees. Mine will actually spray pretty good it's only got like a 5hp Honda.

You reach above 25 ft with a five horse ? Seems like if your gonna really be going for EAB you'd need to reaching a bit higher .

 

[2treeornot2tree]

You reach above 25 ft with a five horse ? Seems like if your gonna really be going for EAB you'd need to reaching a bit higher .

If i put the tree gun on my old sprayer, a 50 gal lesco sprayer, it would reach up to about 50' or so. This new sprayer i got, i should be able to go even higher.

 

[treeclimber101]

If i put the tree gun on my old sprayer, a 50 gal lesco sprayer, it would reach up to about 50' or so. This new sprayer i got, i should be able to go even higher.

For trees , you'll want more HP

 

[treeclimber101]

Here Matt I saved this In iBooks and can't attach it but its a good read

 

[treeclimber101]

damn iPad is pissing me off , there's at least another 16 pages worth reading

 

[mattfr12]

If i put the tree gun on my old sprayer, a 50 gal lesco sprayer, it would reach up to about 50' or so. This new sprayer i got, i should be able to go even higher.

What kind of sprayer are you using I'm willing to get a new one.

 

[mattfr12]

For trees , you'll want more HP

No I normally inject. But would like to be able to spray. I usually use pentra bark on a lot of stuff so it goes straight into the trunk. I've used a lot of safari for EAB in the past. Have to do 60-70 for a park and am gonna need a lot.

The 5hp probably does 30-35 ft maybe even 40 it has a narrow hose on it so it helps keep pressure.

 

[ATH]

Here is the pdf of the book treeclimber101 was trying to post

 

[ATH]

You reach above 25 ft with a five horse ? Seems like if your gonna really be going for EAB you'd need to reaching a bit higher .

???
Are you trying to kill the adults on the bark? What are you spraying?

The systemics do a better job, are easier to apply and have much less chance of freaking out the neighbors with drift.

 

[treeclimber101]

???
Are you trying to kill the adults on the bark? What are you spraying?

The systemics do a better job, are easier to apply and have much less chance of freaking out the neighbors with drift.

Not really talking about EAB , more overall tree sprayers in general and low pressure spray rigs .

 

[ATH]

No I normally inject. But would like to be able to spray. I usually use pentra bark on a lot of stuff so it goes straight into the trunk. I've used a lot of safari for EAB in the past. Have to do 60-70 for a park and am gonna need a lot.

The 5hp probably does 30-35 ft maybe even 40 it has a narrow hose on it so it helps keep pressure.

*Safari is no more effective than imidacloprid, but a LOT more expensive. Since imdacloprid moves into the tree slower, you need to have it down earlier in the year (I apply in March/April). Safari is a good option for summer treatments so it gets into the tree right away. The other place for Safari bark sprays if if you want to treat trees in an area with high water table where it would be inappropriate to soil inject.

*The studies I have seen (OSU and MSU) all say that pentra bark does not improve the effetivness of Safari. It certainly has its place, but I don't think this is one of those

*IF you are going to use Safari, you only need to reach the 5-6' high...there is no need to spray the whole tree (and I don't think that is permitted on the label - is it?). One gallon of mix covers at least 65" of trunk diameter, and you want a low pressure spray, so I'd to the backpack sprayer. 5 gallons will treat fifteen 20" dbh trees. That is not that much pumping. They also make engine powered backpack sprayers.

*If I had the job, I'd soil inject imidacloprid. I use this soil injector with flow meter and can run through those pretty quickly. If they want more, you can also soil inject Safari (might be able to tank mix the two???...I haven't checked up on that). Tree-AGE is really the better treatment, but that many trees could take quite a long time. It is really no more expensive than Safari even accounting for the time it takes to apply. Tree-AGE is good for 2 years, while Safari requires annual treatments. So your Tree-AGE will cost more this year, but a 2 year average it will be close to Safari..actually less based on my fee schedule.

 

[treeclimber101]

Here is the pdf of the book treeclimber101 was trying to post

Thank you that had thoroughly frustrated me .

 

[ATH]

Not really talking about EAB , more overall tree sprayers in general and low pressure spray rigs .

Got it. Yeah, 5 HP isn't going to get you too far.

I do use a 5 HP Honda with a diaphram pump. It puts out about 5 gmp at 300-350 psi. I can reach 35' on a calm day. I do that for bagworms. I sub out the bigger trees...there is a guy nearby who just does spraying, so it is nice to send him out to those jobs. I just pay him and bill the homeowner myself so as far as they are concerned I am still their guy. I don't take any mark-up on those...I suppose I could/should, but I am happy to keep the client and have him take care of the big tree spraying and most of the time they are hiring me to do something else on the property anyhow.

 

[treeclimber101]

Got it. Yeah, 5 HP isn't going to get you too far.

I do use a 5 HP Honda with a diaphram pump. It puts out about 5 gmp at 300-350 psi. I can reach 35' on a calm day. I do that for bagworms. I sub out the bigger trees...there is a guy nearby who just does spraying, so it is nice to send him out to those jobs. I just pay him and bill the homeowner myself so as far as they are concerned I am still their guy. I don't take any mark-up on those...I suppose I could/should, but I am happy to keep the client and have him take care of the big tree spraying and most of the time they are hiring me to do something else on the property anyhow.

I think that was point to Matt if he is willing to spend several thousand on a 3/400 gallon tank then why bring a knife to a gun fight , and don't Chince on the pump and engine , I wanna be able to knock out a tent caterpillar lnest from 70 ft .

 

[2treeornot2tree]

i have a lesco brand 200 gal skid sprayer. i know it sprays about 50'