Snow plow ends

[sirbuildalot]

Kind of an off topic discussion, but basically I have a 8' pickup plow that was converted to be used on the QA of my Kioti tractor. Plow works great and power angles with the 3rd function feature from the joystick. I want to either make or buy some ends that would somewhat convert the plow into a pusher of sorts. This would help keep windrows to a minimum and would be nice for long straight runs to keep snow from falling back into the drive. Certain areas can't be pushed back as far as Id like to do land contours. The ends would get the snow to a more open area.
I did some reading on another site and there used to be a guy who made what he called "Turkey wings". It seems he has since retired some 8-10 years ago. His design enabled the blade to still trip which is what I want. My blade does not have a trip edge, the whole plow trips. I then found another guy who makes them and calls them "Demon Wings". His design also enables the blade to trip, but he charges a lot of money for them imo, and I don't want to spend that much. The whole plow including converting to QA cost me about $800, so I cant see spending the $500 or $600 he gets for end's. I see alot of guys who do commercial plowing use "wings" which widen the plow by a couple feet, and instead of a right angle to the blade they are more like 30 degrees. Not really what I'm looking for. The plow is plenty wide as is, just want a containment feature. Something easily removable. I may just make my own, but was curious if anyone has done something similar. I do also have the 6' bucket but would like to avoid swapping attachments multiple times per winter.

Thanks guys

 

[Sandhill Crane]

Sounds firewood related. I can't get out to work firewood due to snow.

 

[sirbuildalot]

These are the "Demon Wings". They are made from the heavy duty plastic like Sandhill used on his Supersplit I believe. See what I mean though, these are around $500-$600! They pivot on the lower bolt which I believe is a 5/8" bolt and the round groove allows them to trip with the blade.

I'd prefer steel anyways. Maybe 3/16"-1/4" stock.

 

[Big_Eddy]

I think I would see if I could cut a couple of sections of stable mat or some other stiff but flexible material with one edge curved to conform to the blade. Bend and mount a piece of angle iron on the curved edge, and weld a couple of pins to the back side. A couple holes in the plow and you could pop the pins through, slide on a clip and you have quick-attach ends. If you hit something with the ends - they deflect, not deform, and if you trip the blade, they bend out of the way and pop back.

Quick and easy, and if it doesn't work - all you have are 4-6 holes as evidence of the attempt.

 

[Mustang71]

Kind of off topic... was the tractor worth it? Cheaper than a john deere? I'm in the market for a good tractor, in the near future, that's not over priced. I was looking at the ls tractor.

 

[sirbuildalot]

I've been wanting a tractor for a long time, so I did a lot of research prior to buying. I found that the Kioti was one of the heaviest tractors with the most lift capacity both front loader and rear 3 point hitch ,and the highest gpm hydraulic flow in most respective classes. In addition it comes with "standard" features that are extra on many other brands. All for in most cases a cheaper price. The dealer I went to is about 50 minutes away, but he has been selling Kioti for 29 years. The grand L Kubota I compared my NX to was 9 grand more. I got the NX4510 with QA bucket, front grapple, forks, 3 point driveway planer and loaded rear tires (beet juice) for the same price the Kubota without any of those items cost. I'm sure JD is equally as expensive as Kubota. 20 years ago Kubota was the up and coming brand that many people didn't want to take a chance on and therefore were priced aggressively in order to get a market share and make a name for themselves. Kubota has caught up with big names like Deere and are now as expensive in many cases. Kioti are what Kubota used to be. In another several years to a decade I think you'll see Kioti also raise the prices of their machines. I compared the NX to grand L's and small M's by the way. I'm not bashing Kubota, Deere, Mahindra, New Holland, Massey, or any of the others, Kioti made the most sense for me. Based on trusted local dealers, price, options, specs, reviews online, etc.

 

[Mustang71]

I have one of those LS dealers near by also a new holland dealer. I know LS used to make new holland tractors and they make those cabelas tractors now. They seem to be much cheaper with like mentioned a lot of features that come standard that are extra on other brands. I did a comparison to the JD and it's like a copy if it. They are made in Korea which worries me. I know how awesome the Kia is.

 

[sirbuildalot]

John Deere is a US company...doesn't mean your John Deere tractor was made in the US. Kubota is a Japanese company...doesn't mean your Kubota was made in Japan. Many of the big names have foreign built machines by countries in Asia. I wouldn't worry about that at all. Do your research and test drive at your local dealer. That'll be much more telling and important than what country the company is based out of.

 

[Mustang71]

I like having a dealer close. Not that I plan on ever taking a tractor in to have someone else work on it. I'm hoping to go tractor shopping in the next year or so. I'm not looking for anything real big. 25 to 32hp. It's hard to get opinions on tractors that aren't kabota or john deere because those are the "best". I think there's a kioti dealer some where near here.

 

[Waltzie]

I have had a kioti for the last 5 years. Bought it lightly used from an estate with a Cab, QA bucket, forks, snowplow, grapple claw and back hoe. It does everything I ask it to. The price for the package was so good I couldn't pass it up, so I figured if the kioti was a failure I would still be ahead. The tractor surprises me for the better every time I use it. And I grew up on a farm with "real" tractors. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the Kioti brand.

I also plow snow commercially. I have used the store bought plow wings, and have built my own. For what the OP is looking to do, boxing in the plow blade is the cheapest route. If it's for your own property, I wouldn't worry about making the plow ends moveable. We have a site that has zero obstacles that is plowed by a Meyer plow with sides welded on it that has worked fine for years. I would think plowing your own location, you would know where the obstacles are. Rendering the plow trip ineffective is only a problem if you hit something.

 

[sirbuildalot]

I found a video where someone did what I want to do. It appears he used 3/4" plywood, with metal skids. There's other videos of him plowing in the woods with this setup. Maybe I will make a template version out of wood to see if they work.


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Joe+Lesage&qft=+Filterui:userpage-uc3atkk99pfdwo_jwgc5ru1a&view=detail&mid=3549593AD4A66E05EEFA3549593AD4A66E05EEFA&&FORM=VDRVRV

 

[ChoppyChoppy]

I'd just put on the wings and not fuss with the trip blade. Just use 1/4" plate and weld a brace running to the inside.

Unless you are plowing in road gear on unfamilar ground it'll be fine.
The trip edge is to save the plow from getting ripped apart on a truck, mostly while scooting along.

It'd be no worse than plowing with the bucket which tons of folks do.

 

[al-k]

Even with a pusher your still going to leave wind rows. Just going to move a bit more per push.

 

[Bocephous]

I have one of those LS dealers near by also a new holland dealer. I know LS used to make new holland tractors and they make those cabelas tractors now. They seem to be much cheaper with like mentioned a lot of features that come standard that are extra on other brands. I did a comparison to the JD and it's like a copy if it. They are made in Korea which worries me. I know how awesome the Kia is.

I've had my LS R4047H for 6 years/400 hours and have no complaints. They are well built tractors that offer more for your dollar than other, more well known brands.

I do believe that TYM manufactured tractors for Cabela's.

 

[Mustang71]

I was looking at the Ls and it seemed like the right way to go for a small tractor. I'll be doing minor loader work and won't have it on most on the time. I also like that I can get a 5 foot mower deck on it. The JD comes with a smaller one and my main use will be mowing the lawn. It's nice you can choose any tires you want at no extra charge. Like I said before everyone says that you have to buy a kabota or JD because they are the "best". Popular and well advertised doesn't mean it's a great product.

 

[Weesa20]

I just got a MF 1736 but Kioti was 2nd on my list. I pulled the trigger on the MF b/c it was a killer deal on a barely used tractor. Was going to go with Kioti b/c the dealer is a couple miles up the road and their is a distribution center just a few miles from me, but the MF matches up pretty well to the CK3510 and CK4010 which are the ones I was looking at. LS are supposed to be pretty decent too.