Soft maple log hunting cabin

[Hunt4lumber]

Hi all. Been busy cutting firewood and want to build a small hunting cabin on our property using available small(8" diameter trees)to build a "butt and pass "style cabin. I read a previously posted same subject from 2010 but it abruptly ended without showing results from the member (frogy)- I sent him a PM to see if he's still around -so I figured I'd start a new thread here and see if anyone can tell me when the best time to cut them down and how long they need to sit before debarking and building?
( I did read a few important things to do or keep it approximately one and a half to 2 ft above the ground, overhangs of 3 ft and possibly keep it in the shade and obviously reseal the wood accordingly and make sure the roof is good( I would be using a steel roof)

 

[Hunt4lumber]

Hi all. Been busy cutting firewood and want to build a small hunting cabin on our property using available small(8" diameter trees)to build a "butt and pass "style cabin. I read a previously posted same subject from 2010 but it abruptly ended without showing results from the member (frogy)- I sent him a PM to see if he's still around -so I figured I'd start a new thread here and see if anyone can tell me when the best time to cut them down and how long they need to sit before debarking and building?
( I did read a few important things to do or keep it approximately one and a half to 2 ft above the ground, overhangs of 3 ft and possibly keep it in the shade and obviously reseal the wood accordingly and make sure the roof is good( I would be using a steel roof)

Is any one out there?

 

[Mad Professor]

Hi all. Been busy cutting firewood and want to build a small hunting cabin on our property using available small(8" diameter trees)to build a "butt and pass "style cabin. I read a previously posted same subject from 2010 but it abruptly ended without showing results from the member (frogy)- I sent him a PM to see if he's still around -so I figured I'd start a new thread here and see if anyone can tell me when the best time to cut them down and how long they need to sit before debarking and building?
( I did read a few important things to do or keep it approximately one and a half to 2 ft above the ground, overhangs of 3 ft and possibly keep it in the shade and obviously reseal the wood accordingly and make sure the roof is good( I would be using a steel roof)

I'm a fan of timber framing.

Explain what you mean by "butt and pass"?

Best time to cut is when dormant and low moisture content. Debark them green then stack and cover them. Bark will invite bugs. Might want to spray /treat them for bugs. Borates work and relatively non toxic. You can make your own. I think powder post beetles will go into maple.

The logs shrink more in width than length when drying, so that is consideration, and also effects the shrinkage effect upon the building method.

A good place for reference and to ask questions is The Forestry Forum, Timber Framing and Log Construction .

 

[Hunt4lumber]

Okay thanks for the information. I posted on where you said to about this cabin build but no one has replied yet since Monday

 

[Mad Professor]

Okay thanks for the information. I posted on where you said to about this cabin build but no one has replied yet since Monday

Where did you post it? I don't see it.

https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?board=11.0

 

[Hunt4lumber]

Where did you post it? I don't see it.

https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?board=11.0

Oh that's a completely different forum?( I posted in "forestry" on here

 

[Mad Professor]

Oh that's a completely different forum?( I posted in "forestry" on here

That forum deals with timber framing and log cabin construction. There are also drying and processing forum that may be another place to ask about drying your logs.

 

[buzz sawyer]

I'm a fan of timber framing.

Explain what you mean by "butt and pass"?

Best time to cut is when dormant and low moisture content. Debark them green then stack and cover them. Bark will invite bugs. Might want to spray /treat them for bugs. Borates work and relatively non toxic. You can make your own. I think powder post beetles will go into maple.

The logs shrink more in width than length when drying, so that is consideration, and also effects the shrinkage effect upon the building method.

A good place for reference and to ask questions is The Forestry Forum, Timber Framing and Log Construction .

Powder post beetles will absolutely go into soft maple.

 

[Hunt4lumber]

Okay, I'm thinking of putting this product called Cedar Side wood penetrator on them first before sealing them with bug deterrent/killer wood sealant

 

[Mad Professor]

Okay, I'm thinking of putting this product called Cedar Side wood penetrator on them first before sealing them with bug deterrent/killer wood sealant

If you cover the pile on top, to keep rain off, a borate solution will keep bugs out if you treat before they get in. There are recipes how to make this up from powdered borax. It's relatively non-toxic unless you drink it. Borate solutions are used for eye washes and an ingredient in @Visene. I'd save the cedar cide until you treat the inside of the cabin, it will smell nice.

PPBs will be an issue with maple. You'll find tiny holes with fine dust like frass emanating from the holes..

Did you find the forum I suggested? The Moderator there, Jim Rogers, is a good guy.

Again, what is the term "butt and pass" refer to in reference to log building?

 

[Hunt4lumber]

I'm hoping that by treating them that I won't have an issue with powder post Beatles. I just need to find the correct procedure. Yes I did find it and saw his name there, I'm just waiting on him to approve me to post. I wonder if powderpost beetles is what has gotten into my wood pile that is mostly black cherry ? I see what you're talking about with tiny holes and powdery Sawdust looking stuff) it doesn't matter a whole lot whether they are or not in that wood pile to me because I have an outdoor wood burner that I used to heat our house so the wood doesn't come inside anyways but I've been wondering what bug is in it. much

 

[Stubby]

Again, what is the term "butt and pass" refer to in reference to log building?

Here's a little info on that...

https://www.logcabinhub.com/butt-and-pass-log-cabin/

http://www.dirtcheapbuilder.com/Articles/Log_Homes_Butt_and_Pass.htm

Rich

 

[Mad Professor]

Here's a little info on that...

https://www.logcabinhub.com/butt-and-pass-log-cabin/

http://www.dirtcheapbuilder.com/Articles/Log_Homes_Butt_and_Pass.htm

Rich

Thanks @Stubby , I'm already into reading the links.

I was taught traditional scribe rule timber framing by Richard ( sure to be censored) "****" Babcock. No tapes/rulers/squares needed. Layouts with a compass/divider, chalk line, and plumb bob.

I watched ****/learned how to, make a log into a square timber.




Can use irregular timbers/stock, here is a 1 1 root 2/45 degree brace, laid out with a divider.