Spur Climbing

[miko0618]

I wonder if some folks on here even cut trees for a living

 

[KenJax Tree]

OH BOY!!

 

[no tree to big]

Haha if u cut trees for a living and u got **** smooshing u u should quite ur day job

 

[miko0618]

I've never had anything smooshing me. I work safe and dont take chances.

 

[miko0618]

You guys can mock me if you see fit. I really dont care. You guys are tree psychics that can predict everything. I cant say with 100 % certainty that i can detect every tree defect. Or even every reaction. So i use precaution. I hope the op uses precaution instead of arrogance while aloft.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Wrapping your lanyard like that is taking a BIG chance

 

[MasterBlaster]

I remember, after my first year. I was an expert!!!

It wasn't long after that when I had my first cut, then my first fall...

 

[miko0618]

How is wrapping your lanyard around a big chance? It prevents you from being crushed should a split occur.

And yeah, i can see why you would cut yourself and fall.

 

[miko0618]

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/split-crush-death-while-blocking-down.85878/

 

[KenJax Tree]

I thought THAT is what you were doing.....nevermind carry on...

 

[MasterBlaster]

i can see why you would cut yourself and fall.

Really? Please, tell me more. I don't want to hurt myself... school me!

 

[miko0618]

Really? Please, tell me more. I don't want to hurt myself... school me!

Nah... i'll just let you go on knowing it all. I am too busy to deal with such arrogance.

 

[MasterBlaster]

That sounds good to me, brother!

 

[woodchuck357]

I sometimes double wrap my strap/lanyard when working on a small stem, and have had a stem or three split on me. On none of them was I double wrapped and suppose they might have broke the lanyard if they had been set up like that.
Anyway I didn't get squished, every time there was enough space between me and the tree that all I felt was a little jerk and got pulled a little closer to the trunk. None of them showed the slightest sign they were going to split, if they had I would have wrapped the stem with something more substantial than my lanyard. I have to say it is a very rare thing with me and those I have worked with.
I think the splits occurred because of wind shakes, all were in tall fairly straight trees with no large limbs near where the split happened.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Nah... i'll just let you go on knowing it all. I am too busy to deal with such arrogance.

Don't hate me cuz I'm awesome!

 

[miko0618]

Don't hate me cuz I'm awesome!

I think your defenses would diminish if you got whats on your chest off once and for all.

Come out of the closet.

 

[yarightdawg]

If that ***** gonna split where I have my lanyard Im gonna find a new place to put it! Or u can clip both ends of your lanyard to the same d ring so u don't get smooshed
But odds are u can change your cut or do what a climber does and make the tree not split and kill u

People die like this
Tree splits and your lanyard in 500 lbs of force ducking me into stem not sure how long I can hold my breath

 

[yarightdawg]

People die like this
Tree splits and your lanyard in 500 lbs of force ducking me into stem not sure how long I can hold my breath

If you mean use a series of ratchet straps I agree but to use your lanyard don't you think force and weight of this top can hurt you

 

[Matt81]

I wonder if some folks on here even cut trees for a living

Ha Ha, Yeah, i went and spent $4000 AUD on climbing gear and saws just to look good on a postage stamp size pic so i will get more respect on AS!! Makes perfect sense to me.

Choke the tree with multiple lanyard wraps or with your lifeline. Incase it splits.

Wrapping your lanyard like that is taking a BIG chance

If it splits, then you're going to be pulled into the tree and injured. If you think the tree is gonna barber chair then you need to either A) climb higher and take a smaller piece or B) remove some of the limbs that is making the tree so heavy. And I still don't understand why you say to use a kerf cut, unless you mean the back cut, which IS a kerf cut, and in that case that's a redundant point to make.

Aint no way i am gonna be doing that with my lanyard. Makes no sense. If you think it is going to have a good chance of splitting why double wrap your lanyard tighter so you are closer in and then cut it anyway??
I have used ratchet straps or a high grade rated chain for things like this before but not on something i was attached to when cutting. Using a strong ratchet strap or chain has gotta be a better setup than using your own lanyard that you are attached to. By double wrapping it is only the friction of the wraps that are trying to stop the split expanding. When it splits it will expand your wraps and pull you into the tree anyway.

Yes we cannot see every defect or know every detail about every part of a tree. There is a reason that this is the worlds most dangerous job after all. There are many things as mentioned by MasterBlaster that can be done to reduce the risk of it barber chairing. If you are still that worried that it is going to split, that it makes you use your own lanyard to try to stop it happening, sorry but in my mind it is a misguided attempt at taking an extra redundant precaution. It it splits and you are clipped in to the trunk it doesn't really matter how your lanyard is wrapped. If it is double wrapped its just gonna be all over quicker.

People read stories or hear a conversation about what if this happens or what if that happens, and they suddenly realise how dangerous this job is and become the prophet of taking every precaution. If a tree splits like that its gonna be real bad no matter how you wrap your lanyard. If double wrapping to prevent a split makes you sleep better at night good for you. I'm sorry but this might be 101 in your head, but hopefully that is the only place it stays.

 

[miko0618]

Why would you wrap it without adjusting it? Why would you end up closer? And how would it be over quicker that way? You are adding resistance to the split. Who would make a cut thinking its going to split? So yeah with this child level of logic you might have spent money on gear to look good on AS. $4000 doesnt even get you in the business.