Stihl 064 Cylinder Chrome

[Locoweed]

If that is the biggest mistake you have made, you are way ahead of me!

 

[klickitatsacket]

If that is the biggest mistake you have made, you are way ahead of me!

:blush: I've made bigger

 

[THALL10326]

well guys I am feeling a bit sheepish on this one. That cylinder came out of my shop and I dropped the ball twice. Originally he purchased a cylinder off of ebay and it was suppose to go out honed and ready for instalation. When he got it; it was not honed and he honed it himself. When he did scratches appeared and he gave me a call. I had the guys find another cylinder and hone it and mail it out. In my hurry to get this right to him I did not inspect it as closely as I should have. I did not see the chips on the exhaust port. If I had I would have gently stoned the edges. I have made arrangements with triggertime to compensate him for the hassel. Triggertime had already told me that he was not going to put my name on here but because this was my problem I figured I would post the whole thing.

The cylinder was honed with ball hone and usually you do not see chipping like this around the ports. IF anything you will usually see feathered edges if you go long enough.

Mistakes do get made from time to time no matter how hard we try to keep them from happening. When these do; I try my best to fix them and move on. My goal is to keep people happy in spite of them if I can. this does not always happen, but I will still try if I can.

Dayummmm I find this post and you quite comendable. You didn't have to say a word yet you came out and explained the whole situation, mighty admirable to say the least. Gonna rep ya for being totally honest, good job.

 

[RiverRat2]

:hmm3grin2orange:

well guys I am feeling a bit sheepish on this one. That cylinder came out of my shop and I dropped the ball twice. Originally he purchased a cylinder off of ebay and it was suppose to go out honed and ready for instalation. When he got it; it was not honed and he honed it himself. When he did scratches appeared and he gave me a call. I had the guys find another cylinder and hone it and mail it out. In my hurry to get this right to him I did not inspect it as closely as I should have. I did not see the chips on the exhaust port. If I had I would have gently stoned the edges. I have made arrangements with triggertime to compensate him for the hassel. Triggertime had already told me that he was not going to put my name on here but because this was my problem I figured I would post the whole thing.

The cylinder was honed with ball hone and usually you do not see chipping like this around the ports. IF anything you will usually see feathered edges if you go long enough.

Mistakes do get made from time to time no matter how hard we try to keep them from happening. When these do; I try my best to fix them and move on. My goal is to keep people happy in spite of them if I can. this does not always happen, but I will still try if I can.

Dean that is totally cool that you responded the way you did, you have always had my respect as a builder and this type of response on your part pretty much backs it up,,, Just curious do you think that cylinder can be salvaged with a good stone by bringing the aluminum back to where the plating is bonded then re-champerd or has it been raised too much already???


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[Trigger-Time]

If that is the biggest mistake you have made, you are way ahead of me!

Dayummmm I find this post and you quite comendable. You didn't have to say a word yet you came out and explained the whole situation, mighty admirable to say the least. Gonna rep ya for being totally honest, good job.

:hmm3grin2orange:

Dean that is totally cool that you responded the way you did, you have always had my respect as a builder and this type of response on your part pretty much backs it up,,,


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Guys, Bullseye!

This was my first dealing with Dean (I see more DEALING HEAD)
He has been more than fair. I can not say enough about how he has
handled this.

BTW, I just want to say that I was not trying to use AS
to try to get things to go my way. This deal had nothing
to do with AS. I did'nt think the clyinder looked right and wanted
a second opinion. After talking to Dean on the phone
I don't think I need a second opinion.

Thank you, Gary

 

[Trigger-Time]

Don't do this

Now I want to show what happns when you hone to much.
This it the cylinder that came off the 064. I had bought
a new flex hone. I had read to take the edge off new
hone run it in something like 2" water pipe. I thought what
the heck, I will use this junk cylinder. I honed it 3 times 15 sec.
each time (with oil) at about 1000 rpm. Hone is 320 grit (I think)
You can see it took the chrome off real nice

Just so every body Knows I done this to this cylinder, Me Gary!
Not the scoring, the honing

A few people have ask, Minolta Dimage A200

 

[BIG JAKE]

well guys I am feeling a bit sheepish on this one. That cylinder came out of my shop and I dropped the ball twice. Originally he purchased a cylinder off of ebay and it was suppose to go out honed and ready for instalation. When he got it; it was not honed and he honed it himself. When he did scratches appeared and he gave me a call. I had the guys find another cylinder and hone it and mail it out. In my hurry to get this right to him I did not inspect it as closely as I should have. I did not see the chips on the exhaust port. If I had I would have gently stoned the edges. I have made arrangements with triggertime to compensate him for the hassel. Triggertime had already told me that he was not going to put my name on here but because this was my problem I figured I would post the whole thing.

The cylinder was honed with ball hone and usually you do not see chipping like this around the ports. IF anything you will usually see feathered edges if you go long enough.

Mistakes do get made from time to time no matter how hard we try to keep them from happening. When these do; I try my best to fix them and move on. My goal is to keep people happy in spite of them if I can. this does not always happen, but I will still try if I can.

You the man Dean. Says alot about your ethic.

 

[Trigger-Time]

Took a day off, Going to play with the saws. so first thing I played with
is the 064 cylinder. I think it will be ok...........Now its time to go outside.

 

[RiverRat2]

Now I want to show what happns when you hone to much.
This it the cylinder that came off the 064. I had bought
a new flex hone. I had read to take the edge off new
hone run it in something like 2" water pipe. I thought what
the heck, I will use this junk cylinder. I honed it 3 times 15 sec.
each time (with oil) at about 1000 rpm. Hone is 320 grit (I think)
You can see it took the chrome off real nice

Just so every body Knows I done this to this cylinder, Me Gary!
Not the scoring, the honing

A few people have ask, Minolta Dimage A200

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Gary,

Ive done the same thing.....My best friend owns a large (Black Motor) marine dealership in SW LA near the TX border,,, As kids we raced Go-karts and played with 100 cc piston ported motors,,,,,,what we found was just how thin that bore plating is and as a rule of thumb when honing we quit using 120 volt electric drill motors for extended periods of time, and switched to battery drill motors @ slower rpms, say, 300-400,w/ shorter duration ... I have found htat maybe three, 5-7 sec bursts with several rapid oscillations up and down and spin it on your way out of the bore gives you that pretty crosshatch that you are looking for. also good hone oil, and lots of it,,, Marvel Mystery oil works pretty well,,, I have also found that those vertical lines wont hurt you that bad as long as your finger nail doesn't hang easily, you would be surprised, they will leak alittle but usually fill in with carbon after the first couple of tanks and actually run very well:rockn: :rockn: