Stihl 210 Gutless??

[jfp]

This is my first post here so bear with me.
A friend of mine was helping me fell a fairly large juniper tree. The largest limbs are approx. 12". While I was using a Stihl 210 it would frenquently bog down and stall (chain stop moving), even while keeping the rpm's high. He was using a Husqvarna 142 and had no problems at all. Both had new chains (saftey). Seems like the that little Husky out performed my Stihl.
To make sure it was not our cutting style, we switched saws with the same result.

So I have a couple of questions.
Why does that little Husky take such a beating on this forum?
I know, I know, it's a Poulan, but it sure seems to run well.
What is the power rating of the Husqvarna 142? 2.2HP? 2.4HP? 2.6HP?
California rating?

While my little Stihl starts and runs well, that little Husky kicked it's butt!
We both paid about the same price for our saws. $229.00
Unless the Husky is going to blow up and fall apart in a few years, is seems like the 142 is a great bang for the buck. Am I wrong?

Thanks,

JP

 

[madmax]

I'm a new poster here myself, probably fixing to get kicked in the head kinda hard, but in my opinion if it says Husky buy it, if it says Stihl, sell it to the neighbers kids, (their parents will finally get tired of the unneccessary noise and ship it to goodwill lol,). Now gonna put on my helmet, (ok HARDHAT), and hope the Stihl guys dont kickback to hard.

 

[buck futter]

well the stihl is smaller in displacement and horsepower thats. The husky has 10% more power to be exact 2.0 vs 2.2 hp. It would be a closer fight if you had a ms 230. Are the both tuned to specs? Why not go to a stihl dealer have him check it out or run it, maybe something is not right. How is the chain if it is bogging that much in the cut perhaps the rakers are not set optimal for your saw. They are both decent saw for what they are intended to do. Do you think stihl or husky are concerned with making consumer saws the fastest or the most dependable and idiot proof.

Buck

 

[pbtree]

This is my first post here so bear with me...JP

JP - welcome to the site - no need to ask anyone to bear with you, always glad to share.

Other than the fact that I am a hard core Husky fan, you might want to check out some of the easier things before spending alot of money or time -

Is the air filter clean? Fresh gas mix? If the simple things are OK, then take a good look at the chain and see if it is sharpened correctly.

Anything more complicated than that, either have a shop take a look at it, or save the bucks on the service bill and put it towards a new Husky!

 

[sawn_penn]

More CCs equals more power. There aren't many miracles to be worked on two strokes to make them outperform their capacity.

I've got a 180, which is certainly a wimpier saw than the 210. It cuts full bar length timber pretty well. Yes, it bogs down if I apply too much pressure. If I just let it cut it runs through pretty well. It's not as fast as a bigger saw.

It's fast enough that if most of my cuts are < 8" and there are only a few >
12" I won't bother starting the other saw.

Maybe the Husky guy is better at sharpening his chain? (said as I duck for cover...)

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

well the stihl is smaller in displacement and horsepower thats. The husky has 10% more power to be exact 2.0 vs 2.2 hp. It would be a closer fight if you had a ms 230. Are the both tuned to specs? Why not go to a stihl dealer have him check it out or run it, maybe something is not right. How is the chain if it is bogging that much in the cut perhaps the rakers are not set optimal for your saw. They are both decent saw for what they are intended to do. Do you think stihl or husky are concerned with making consumer saws the fastest or the most dependable and idiot proof.

Buck

Well said Buck. When you're dealing with 2 hp saws, .2 hp is alot. And there are so many factors that can come into play. Saw tuning, chain sharpness, and the quality of the actual sharpening of each respective chain and so on.

Jeff

 

[stihltech]

guts

If the saw is dying in the cut, it is either,

Too lean

DULL

Or being pushed too hard.

Having tested these little saws in 12 to 20 inch logs out back, a little finess goes a long way. Let the saw do the work. Maintenance is key.

 

[JPP]

Well, nobody has mentioned this and I sure don't mean to insult your intelligence jfp....are you sure the chain is on the right direction???

Similar situation with a friend. He said his saw wasn't cutting at all with a new chain. I looked at it and found he put the chain on backwards!!! I fixed it for him and off he went....:greenchainsaw:

 

[ray benson]

Probably a simple carb adjustment. If the carb is set too lean the saw will be gutless.

 

[DanManofStihl]

Ms 180 vs the 141

I ran my ms 180 against a husky 141. They both had new carlton chains on them and my saw in 10 inch oak both had the 14 inch bars. I tied him the first time and then beat him the 2nd two we switch saws and then he won the first one and then we tied the next two. I would try the rakers and the carb setting on your saw something is not correct if you are bogging down that much. My saw can cut 12 inch oak and as long as im not bucking to hard it will not bog it down to a stop.

 

[alderman]

Clutch problem?

If the chain stops moving and the rpms are still high could this be pointing toward a clutch problem?

 

[stihltech]

clutch

Very doubtfull. You are pushing too hard, and the guy with the Husky is letting his saw do the work.

 

[THALL10326]

This is my first post here so bear with me.
A friend of mine was helping me fell a fairly large juniper tree. The largest limbs are approx. 12". While I was using a Stihl 210 it would frenquently bog down and stall (chain stop moving), even while keeping the rpm's high. He was using a Husqvarna 142 and had no problems at all. Both had new chains (saftey). Seems like the that little Husky out performed my Stihl.
To make sure it was not our cutting style, we switched saws with the same result.

So I have a couple of questions.
Why does that little Husky take such a beating on this forum?
I know, I know, it's a Poulan, but it sure seems to run well.
What is the power rating of the Husqvarna 142? 2.2HP? 2.4HP? 2.6HP?
California rating?

While my little Stihl starts and runs well, that little Husky kicked it's butt!
We both paid about the same price for our saws. $229.00
Unless the Husky is going to blow up and fall apart in a few years, is seems like the 142 is a great bang for the buck. Am I wrong?

Thanks,

JP

Are you saying that little Husky is really made by Poulan? Hmmmmmmmm, interesting.

 

[pbtree]

Are you saying that little Husky is really made by Poulan? Hmmmmmmmm, interesting.

Even more interesting in that it still beats a Stihl! :greenchainsaw:

 

[THALL10326]

Even more interesting in that it still beats a Stihl! :greenchainsaw:

That is correct, very interesting. Husky has finally figured out a way to beat a Stihl, have Poulan make it and just put their name on it, very interesting indeed. I guess that would mean Poulan is beating those Husky's too, very interesting indeed,

 

[Lakeside53]

That is correct, very interesting. Husky has finally figured out a way to beat a Stihl, have Poulan make it and just put their name on it, very interesting indeed. I guess that would mean Poulan is beating those Husky's too, very interesting indeed,

Beating one cut is one thing; how about after a few thousand cuts, or 5 years...
I bet Husky will regret whoreing their good name with the low end saws of another maker...

 

[toolfreak]

Poulan? Who said that ? I thought we weren't suposed to use profanity on this site!

 

[THALL10326]

Beating one cut is one thing; how about after a few thousand cuts, or 5 years...
I bet Husky will regret whoreing their good name with the low end saws of another maker...

Samething I was thinking Lake. Why in the world would Husky, as big a company as they are, do that. I mean they have been making good saws for years so why in the world would they have Poulan making their saws and stamping the Husky name on it. Any idea why they are doing that these days???????

 

[Lakeside53]

Samething I was thinking Lake. Why in the world would Husky, as big a company as they are, do that. I mean they have been making good saws for years so why in the world would they have Poulan making their saws and stamping the Husky name on it. Any idea why they are doing that these days???????

Same reason they are in box stores - desperately trying to take a market from the bottom after failing to do it from the top...

 

[canguy21]

I am not a fan of the Poulan built Husky's either. I work for a Husky dealer and we have seen a lot of problems with them, particularily carburetion. The 340 is the smallest Swedish built model available here and is a great home owner saw..
E-lux owns both company's and there is a lot of cross badging going on. They also own McCulloch of Italy and sell the Poulan overseas under that brand. At least we have not seen a European built Mac disguised as a Husky. Yet.