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Originally posted by bwalker
One thign you have to remember is that husky published weight does not include the falling dog, sprocket cover, and bar nuts. Dolmar does the same thing FWIW.

Thats one thing I've wondered, Why would a saw manufacturer weigh a saw without the falling dogs clutch cover and bar nuts?
I can understand not weighing one with the bar on it because the owner may prefer having a different bar length from what the saw was weighed with, and the owner may want a different type of bar from the one on the saw when weighed.
 
Its a marketing strategy........its the way Husky works. Im not sure if anyone here is a Husky dealer or if any one is a Stihl dealer, but husky is not a very good company when it comes to taking care of their dealers.

First they put they're saws into Lowes and Sears (which will end up proving to be Husky's doom). They also put dealers every street corner. I have a Husky dealer in another town but is only 3/4 of a mile away from me on the same road. I have been asked numerous times to be a Husky dealer. Now the other dealer and I have a good business relationship.......I need parts I get them at cost......he needs parts he gets them at cost. I wouldn't think about taking the dealership just for this reason.

There is a husky dealer about 25 minutes drive from me who wants a Stihl dealership in the worst way and my rep will not give it to him.......there are Stihl dealers in all directions from him all within about 25 minutes drive and this guy just isn't going to get the dealership. That in my eyes is the best thing that a company can do for the little guy is protect their territory.

Now back to topic.....the MS 361. My opinion the best saw Stihl has come up with in since the 066. I have sold a ton of em so far and my customers couldn't be happier. Hope you guys like em!
 
I hate to say it, but most of the little guys are going to be ate up by the big stores(walmart syndrome). Stihl is just prolonging it by a few years.
I might add that many of these dealers that will go undercan blame no one, but themselves. Poor service, unkowledgable and bad attitudes in general.
 
Ben, The dealer I work for has more than a dozen lines of power equipment, Scag, Cub Cadet, Mantis, Stihl etc, etc, etc. He spends over a hundred thousand a year on advertising! ( and sees a return). We are busy all day every day. We ain't going anywhere but up. Stihl will not sink to the box store level.
 
Rich- The reason you're seeing good low-end power in the 361 is due to a longer stroke than the 036/360, even though the piston in the 361 is smaller ( 47mm ) vs. the 036/360 ( 48mm ). The cylinder has way better porting as well, with a sort of quad transfer loop and a better crank ( beefier big end bearing and well balanced crank throws ).
 
Jacob,

Some quick math using your diameters shows the stroke to be the same (34mm), or very nearly so (not knowing the displacement of the new saw to any decimal places).&nbsp; The smaller saw is less oversquare, or has a <i>relatively</i> longer stroke; perhaps that's what you'd meant?

Glen
 
Glens- according to the technical release we received on the MS-361, the crank dimensions are different than the 036/360. The 036/360 has a 34mm stroke, as you mentioned, with a 58mm connecting rod. I believe from what I've read the 361 rod is longer, but the crank throws may be shorter.
 
Hi Jacob.

Just going by their stated engine size and your piston diameter:

&nbsp; (59000mm<sup><font size="-2">3</font></sup> &divide; (47mm&divide;2)<sup><font size="-2">2</font></sup>) &divide; 3.14 = 34mm

The length of the connecting rod has nothing to do with the length of the stroke, which is determined solely by distance between the crank journals, right?

Thanks for the info.&nbsp; I guess I was wondering what the engine component dimensions were on that saw.

How are they working out for you guys, if at all?

Glen
 
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