I can vouch for Bryanr's statement. He bought a saw from me and he was very particular about pictures and asked lots of questions as he should have. You never know about ebay .....I feel much more comfortable buying one here from a reputable long time poster. You'll have to grow some thick skin to hang around this bunch of yahoos and learn to take a little ribbing. Nmurph is a great guy and sells lots of saws. I bought a 346xp oe from him that I am very happy with for a great price. To quote a well known saw builder on this site " this is a group of work hardened men who say what we think" If you got upset over this thread , maybe is isn't the place for you.