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[BigJohn]

Great ground men aren't found they're made. Isn't that right PE5572?

 

[murphy4trees]

cut a foot long chunk while holding it in one hand and cuttin with the other. The same goes for the tips of some branches

Sounds like you have yet to discover the wonders of a good handsaw... At least for the tips and snap cutting the bigger stuff can work well... might be able to take longer pieces... it goes faster with an easy on/off of the saw, using a bent gate biner on the saddle...

The point is that having the "right" combination of gear allows a lot more flexibilty of technique, which comes in mighty handy... Big Jon has shown me a lot in this area, and his climbing style has evolved past the need for much of this gear...

I don't have to worry about that happenning anytime too soon, as I'd have to get in really good shape to do it like him... Until then I keep two 24', one 36', and a 40' ladder on the van at all times....

 

[a_lopa]

yeh i think i might get a ladder myself,ive got skateboard grip tape on my dump trucks bin for hedging with the ht75 works well.although OHAS might not agree.im scared of ladders thou.big jon is right that good groundies are made, mines about half way there now,hes 40 and just starting out fit as a mallee bull thou,and thrives on a hard day

 

[MasterBlaster]

Handsaw?

 

[a_lopa]

handsaws are to much hard work,ill do anything not to use one.at least im honest.heres one that i borrowed permanantly i used it once to get a r/c airplane out of head

 

[BigJohn]

Chainsaws are too much work. When prunning I'll do anything not to use one. I haven't been doing much prunning lately so in this case I leave the handsaw behind.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

I stil take my handsaw even on removals. It gets used a lot. I use it to claer small limbs in my way, to scratch my back, to extend my reach when the groundman is whipping the rope back to me, etc.

 

[MasterBlaster]

I wouldn't put my saddle on if I didn't have my zubat. But I also always have my 200.

 

[Reed]

How come people don't have a scabbard attached as standard equipment anymore? What's with not wanting to have the "extra" weight of the 020 hanging? It's standard equipment and part of the normal job.

REminds me of the "elite" bicycle crowd I see riding the road past my driveway - French-cut shorts and racing tees and clicky-toe stepper shoes. All look like some european road racers...none of that gear improves the basic abilities of the leg muscles, just fashion and the marketing mentality at work. "Go riding without styling?", hell yeah. Like to see some of those riders make it through the river valley Deliverance was filmed in - "Squeal like a pig mister".

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Originally posted by kowens
the only rules i follow in the tree are my own

So you learn from only your mistakes?

This is stuff made up by people who have never held a chainsaw or climbed a tree.

ANSI is made up by tree people, ranted they are those who have oworked their way up into management.

stricked control of one handed use of chainsaws is good policy for company owners. The individual climber has to worry about their own loss, management needs to worry about everyones loss.

Once again, the standards are there to not just protect the individual, but the industry in agrogate.

If we do not follow the ANSI as an industry, then OSHA has a reason to come and start making the truley dumb rules (eg dorsal fall restraint attatchemnt for climbers) as they see fit.

 

[BigJohn]

elite?

Maybe I am one of those elite sorta guys. Knowing what to have and what not to have is pretty important. I wouldn't say its not fashionable to have a chainsaw or scabbard with or without me. A baggy T-shirt may be unfashionable and unpractical. Its about haveing something left at the end of the day and that end being 4 o'clock not 6 or 8 and getting two days worth of work done in 1 8 hour day. The "elite" can have done by 9 or 10 what takes the average guy all day to struggle through.

 

[a_lopa]

very true big jon,only problem i find is doing the work while they arnt home,if you know what im saying.you would fit in great down under.

 

[BigJohn]

I just got the down under horsemanship videos, rideing with confidence. I really like the ways of Clinton Anderson.

 

[murphy4trees]

Ya putting a 3K tree on the ground in 45 minutes, while the customer and the boss are watching together is enough to get you in trouble...

 

[a_lopa]

14k 2 days after i said it would take a week to justify the price

 

[MasterBlaster]

Every time I see the title of this thread I wanna either twist one, or put a stew on the stove.

Oh yah... overhead cutting.

Nah, not me! :angel:

 

[Nathan Wreyford]

Originally posted by oakwilt

REminds me of the "elite" bicycle crowd I see riding the road past my driveway - French-cut shorts and racing tees and clicky-toe stepper shoes. All look like some european road racers...none of that gear improves the basic abilities of the leg muscles, just fashion and the marketing mentality at work. "Go riding without styling?"

LMAO Reed. Then the city people don't understand why locals look at them as different.

The styling?? Heck yeah, it is all about the bling these days. Screw how good you are at the sport, as long as you have the best gear and trendiest Tshirt. I hangout with the rock climber crowd from time to time. It is clear I don't fit in because I don't know how to dress.

Reminds me of the song by the Moldy Peaches, Who's got the crack? "I wanna be a hippie but I forgot how to dress.."

http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/moldy_peaches/337382/album.jhtml

Chainsaws are too much work. When prunning I'll do anything not to use one. I haven't been doing much prunning lately so in this case I leave the handsaw behind.

Have to agree 100% here That is why I am getting an Ibuki to go with my zubat.

 

[Gypo Logger]

Sometimes, "one- handing it", can reduce fatigue and back strain, especially when you, "buddy up", with someone that can help you place the felling cuts. It also increases production. The only drawback is when you colide with your partner running down the same escape route.
John

 

[Nickrosis]

If you can find something safer than what ANSI advises, I'm not gonna say no. The standards have offered this option in some situations like Z133.1-2000, pg. 11, 7.2.8 - "Arborists shall use a second point of attachment (work-positioning lanyard or double-crotched rope) when operating a chain saw in a tree, unless the employer demonstrates that a greater hazard is posed by using a second point of attachment while operating chain saws in that particular situation." Good luck proving that after someone falls to their death from cutting through just one lanyard on a spar. Guess what, you're more than likely going to be paying out for that.

I've been right next to someone as they fell out of a tree. I've nicked (get it), scratched, bonked, and bruised myself in a tree. I've followed many tragic arborist death and injury news stories. What could have prevented many, many, many of them was close or closer adherence to the ANSI standard. You know, I really don't care how long you've been climbing wrong. It takes a fraction of a second to screw up. It takes slightly longer for you to hit the ground. It takes a much longer time to wish you had done things differently.

You're talking to someone who watches and works with people who do things wrong. I do things wrong all the time. Hey, I plugged the chipper before 9am this morning. But commit to an attitude of learning, please.

BigJohn, please buy the standard this week. Sean can hook you up. Kowens, I think you're on the right track. Rocky, show some squirrel nuts and give a name of who on the ANSI committee is unqualified to be there. Name one person.

ANSI isn't a person or an organization; it's us. It legitimizes our existence, and it's the key to our business success and our literal survival.

 

[Derek]

one handed saw???

I'm forever telling my crew "theres no such thing as a one handed saw" and for ever doing it myself. See my posted photo
"tall and close" I quite often need to through grappaling hook into "finger tips" of branch and cut (020) one handed while I pull with other...
Had enough zaps and bites (even a few punches) tring to swing branches away from lines (330kv) I know its not the safest thing to do but got to be better than hitting the line or within 2m of it stay safe Derek.