Sure is quiet in here....do I need to start a fight?

[stihl023/5]

Nope......posting from the same laptop I always post from. Sorry....I have no clue.....don't take it personal Kevin...!!!

Its ok

 

[pioneerguy600]

Had a guy here at the house last night that is a high security tech expert, the kind that prevents sites from being hacked n stuffs, he had no answers either for this condition other than the browser not being updated recently.

 

[Cantdog]

So then we did some of this........

 

[Cantdog]

Then we did some of that......

 

[Cantdog]

Then "that" actually became this.........the ceiling slowly lifted to reveal the beauty previously hidden by snow....

 

[tbone75]

Real nice Robin !!!

 

[Cantdog]

Then we left "that" and drove a while to this......if you zoom in on the 5th pic you can see tiny humans rock climbing.....

 

[tbone75]

Lots of people in the 3rd pic too !

 

[Cantdog]

Lots of people in the 3rd pic too !

Yep they just like ants!!!

Been up and down the Columbia River Gorge.....all of one side and most of the other......pretty WOW!!!

 

[Cantdog]

They had a huge fire up in the Gorge Sept 2016. Caused by a 16 yr old setting smoke bombs........miles and miles of burn evidence to see.....got some pics from the other side of the gorge to hopefully show some of the burn.......but the entire thing is to big to fathom....'bout 40 miles of mountain doug fir destroyed...hope you can see...all the brown was once green and it just goes on and on. Couldn't get many pics as I was driving and the roads very crooked.

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/20...sible-for-columbia-river-gorge-fire-sentenced

 

[Cantdog]

Stuck here in Portland Oregon due to weather to the east........puts me in mind of this place we went.......hope we don't have to stay the whole 8 hours like it says on the sign!!!

 

[RandyMac]

yeah, Redwoods bust up easy and make a big mess, yup, I scattered one once.

 

[pioneerguy600]

I see many Redwoods with rotten heart wood, would they break up easier when they hit the ground?

 

[RandyMac]

They can pop like an egg if not handled correctly or if there is no good place to drop them, proper layouts are key, but not always possible.
Imagine needing a D8 to gouge out a road for nearly every tree to land on, cost is high in time, money and can be environmentally unsound.
A tree deemed highly valuable can require several hours of prep, lots of dirt and vegetation displaced, not a good thing in an area that sees several feet of rain in a season.
The level of disruption is appalling, often there was nothing left but stumps, churned soil, permanently disfigured hillsides and massive heaps of debris.
The erosion was intense, the 1964 Christmas Flood was payback for decades of hellbent logging, major river streambeds like the Eel, Van Duzen and Klamath were buried under 20 to 30 feet of gravel.
Include the massive amount of large (LOL) woody debris, that took out the bridges, jammed up to cut the banks, toppling even more trees to become battering rams.
The rules began to change, too little, too late, such was the basic nature of OG Redwood logging. Who carries the blame? Ultimately, the consumer and the Government's greed for tax revenue.

 

[pioneerguy600]

I seen some erosion picts on steep hillsides, gastly! Logging companies made off like bandits eh?

 

[RandyMac]

Yeah some did, the old cut and run, some kept the land and tried the sustained yield thing, select cutting it doesn't really work well, they invariably blow down.
Research Redwood Creek and the FedGov caused disaster with the National park boundaries and threats of not being able to pay for the land, the timber companies panicked and all hell broke loose.

 

[Cantdog]

Hey Randy.......glad we could meet up and chat for a bit! We had as excellent trip and took a number of roads you suggested out around the mouth of the Klamath , though some were not open yet all the way through......still way worth the effort!! We'll stay in touch as I 'spect with the daughter living in Portland Oregon, we'll be back shortly and will be exploring more. Thanks again!!

 

[Stihl 041S]

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Hey Marcie!!!!

 

[pioneerguy600]

Holy smoke, page 3 alert. Robins trip looked to be awesome and he covered a lot of ground out there.

 

[Cantdog]

Holy smoke, page 3 alert. Robins trip looked to be awesome and he covered a lot of ground out there.

Yes we did.......the rent-a-rig had just over 8000 miles on it when we picked it up......10,254 when we dropped it off. This one was a 2019 GMC Terrain.....not a bad little ****-box.......little dungy off the line but once you got 'er past 3000 rpm the turbo could develop hull boost and it went away pretty good. Most irritating feature was "engine shut off at stop feature".......let off the brake or touch the gas and it would start up again in gear and away you go......stupid idea...just added to the dungyness in traffic. Finally discovered it could be over ridden by keeping the AC on.......otherwise a light power brake kept it running........musta been designed by an engineer that had major stock holding in a starter manufacturing company......pfffft.....