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[tramp bushler]

No spenders , no pad ???? ouch

What is with the blue hard hats ??? How did you pack that big cully ... At least if you have spenders on you can slip a piece of bark under them to keep from burning tooth brands into your shoulder ..

 

[Greystoke]

Yeah, and great fun while it lasted, those were unruly times.

Awesome stories "Havoc" Sounded like some good times

 

[Meadow Beaver]

TB, sounds like an 87cc McCulloch, some of the best saws Mac built.
The truck was a KW, the loader a 988 and yes, Redwood bark is full of chain eating grit, the dust is asbestos like. Redwood logging could be slow and tedious, nothing moved very fast, even the damned trees took their time falling to the ground. I bucked for hours on end, I worked from the topside, the Master at ground level. First, you have to get up there, dragging the chainsaw with you, then drop a plumbline over the side where Ray (the Master) would line up the cut. I would drop the saw over the side, line up and retrieve the cord, set the spikes and commence. I used to crouch along the left side of the saw, left thumb on the throttle, right hand pushing the end of the pistol grip, right foot on the front bar, the big geardrives loved the pressure. Sure as shootin', there was buckin' in a bind, which I learned to do without wedges, as sometimes the big ones would just squeeze them into the wood. Geardrives were tricky in a bound cut, they would keep on sawing long after a direct drive would stall, and yes Virginia an 090 will stall long before a geardrive would. If you missed the change in engine tone, the thing would come flying out of the cut with the speed and force of a torpedo.
I ran the Master's big upright cylinder Homelites a fair amount, he had a dozen or so at any time, 9-whatevers, 900 series geardrives, the shortest bar he had was 60", standard, for him was 72". I am a McCulloch fan, and I will give those old Homelites their due, in some minor ways, they were better than the same class (dreadnaught) McCullochs, but all chainsaws have their weak points, starters were Homelite's.
I have rambled on enough.......

Randy you forgot that they made an 090G

 

[RandyMac]

MM39, I know that there are 090Gs, I have no opinion on them, having never seen or ran one.
Stihls didn't have much of a presence in my area until the mid 1970s, by then the available OG timber was quickly running out and was nearly finished 10 years later. The 1970s were the last years of bustass logging, although PALCO showed genuine effort though the '80s, they even clearcut the old select cut lands, some dated back to '50s.

 

[Meadow Beaver]

Yeah I remember you metioning how McCulloch and Homelite were big at the time.

 

[tramp bushler]

The Us and Canada had the ability to be the world leaders with saws and they dropped the ball ....Lost the game .......

 

[Meadow Beaver]

Yep, there was Shindaiwa but I guess Echo bought them, so no more American based saw companies. Oh well America buys everything else from foreign countries too.

 

[tramp bushler]

Shindawa doesn,t sound very American ?

 

[Metals406]

Shindawa doesn,t sound very American ?

You've never heard of Shindawa, Ohio??

 

[RandyMac]

I bought a 075 in '77, the guys I worked with called me a Democrat, and the saw a "nazi saw". I gave it a good trial, three months worth, ditched it, carried on with my Macs.

 

[Meadow Beaver]

Shindawa doesn,t sound very American ?

Shindaiwa has a US office in Lake Zurich, Illinois

 

[Meadow Beaver]

I bought a 075 in '77, the guys I worked with called me a Democrat, and the saw a "nazi saw". I gave it a good trial, three months worth, ditched it, carried on with my Macs.

Here's a tough question for you Randy. What do you think is the best saw out of all the saws you've ran?

 

[tramp bushler]

Randy, did you NOT like the anti vibe or something ?????. Granted it didn,t have the power of a Super Pro 125 . But it didn,t viberate as much either ..... I had a couple older 075 s . They were ok , but the 2100 was a better all around saw and the 3120 hands down out cut them ..

 

[Gologit]

I bought a 075 in '77, the guys I worked with called me a Democrat, and the saw a "nazi saw". I gave it a good trial, three months worth, ditched it, carried on with my Macs.

Yup...nazi saw, kraut crap, and some other names the censor won't let me list. A lot of those "old" guys fought the Germans in WWll and the thought of using a German saw really bothered them. You had to respect that. Some never did make the switch and ran that heavy red or yellow iron until they retired. Me, I'll take a turn running some of the old iron just for fun at a GTG but if I'm working I'll take my kraut crap 660 every time. And I'm not a Democrat.

 

[bitzer]

Awesome stories Randy! I'd rep ya again if I could! You could easily turn that kind of stuff into a book. I'd buy it! Someone needs to tell the stories of the past and you've got a knack for it.

 

[RandyMac]

Here's a tough question for you Randy. What do you think is the best saw out of all the saws you've ran?

That is a toughy, there were many that were really good, not that many stinkers. That 075 was a very civilized chainsaw, quiet, AV and all, but lacked zing, in my twisted opinion, it was an over-rated, over-weight, over-priced, under-powered yuppie saw.
Ok, the best big direct drive, the 797, had lots of zing, the right hand start doesn't bother me, no distracting "flex" from AV.
Medium chainsaws, so many good ones, PM850, Super 250, XL925. I had an 045, nice, no zing.
Though medium in displacement at 87cc, the first and best 660 rates as a heavy saw, meaning a bar length to 48", 60" if needed. The McC 895 and Homie 900 series were great heavy saws, the XP1130 deserves mention.
Little chainsaws, gosh, I used an XL12, alot, more hours than a 10-10, the McCulloch had more zing, the XLs would never die.

Zing factor had alot to do with what I liked, it's subjective. In general, Stihls lacked zing.

 

[stihl sawing]

Wonder why mac and homelite stopped making pro saws and go to the cheap things they make now. Looks like one of them would start making good saws again and try to sell the people that use them everyday. I think if they did come out with a saw that was worthy of a pro saw it would sell. I remember some of the old macs i have run, They were well built, now none of them were the size of the ones Randy has used. I would certainly look at one if they came out with a good saw.

 

[Meadow Beaver]

That is a toughy, there were many that were really good, not that many stinkers. That 075 was a very civilized chainsaw, quiet, AV and all, but lacked zing, in my twisted opinion, it was an over-rated, over-weight, over-priced, under-powered yuppie saw.
Ok, the best big direct drive, the 797, had lots of zing, the right hand start doesn't bother me, no distracting "flex" from AV.
Medium chainsaws, so many good ones, PM850, Super 250, XL925. I had an 045, nice, no zing.
Though medium in displacement at 87cc, the first and best 660 rates as a heavy saw, meaning a bar length to 48", 60" if needed. The McC 895 and Homie 900 series were great heavy saws, the XP1130 deserves mention.
Little chainsaws, gosh, I used an XL12, alot, more hours than a 10-10, the McCulloch had more zing, the XLs would never die.

Zing factor had alot to do with what I liked, it's subjective. In general, Stihls lacked zing.

Well I have yet to run a McCulloch but I'll buy one some day to see what the hype is about.

 

[056kid]

You have never run any Mccullochs?

thats a bit odd..

 

[Meadow Beaver]

Nope, never even seen a big mac, I've ran mostly Stihls and Huskies.