Tennis elbow anyone?
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Hi Toni and Derek, I will buzz in when I get some time, I will send a link but have to find it first. Derek don’t you be a stubborn arse and listen to Toni you hear! Those cortisone shots won’t help, and yes you have to take it easy for a while, you have no choice.
Rob.
Rob.
John Stewart
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Sorry to hear about that Derek
I was just thinking about you the other night on line and that I hadn't seen you out here for awhile. Take her ease so you can getback up.
Thanks for keeping us posted Tony
You guy's take care
Later
John
I was just thinking about you the other night on line and that I hadn't seen you out here for awhile. Take her ease so you can getback up.
Thanks for keeping us posted Tony
You guy's take care
Later
John
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Toni and Derek;
We have used cortisone in connection with foot problems in horses. It is effective anti inflamitory and good on circulation reducing swelling but you are warned to get them off as soon as possible. I will paste a little caution that goes with cortisone for people.
"Can I get a cortisone injection more than once?
Yes. There is no rule as to how many cortisone injections can be given. Often physicians do not want to give more than three, but there is not really a specific limit to the number of shots. However, there are some practical limitiations. If a cortisone injection wears off quickly or does not help the problem, then repeating it may not be worthwhile. Also, animal studies have shown effects of weakening of tendons and softening of cartilage with cortisone injections. Repeated cortisone injections multiply these effects and increase the risk of potential problems. This is the reason many physicians limit the number of injections they offer to a patient".
Some people are generally more prone to tendonitis. I have had it in elbows, forearms and achilles. Have tried toughen up and work thru it but that doesn't seem to work. Just have to back off for a while.
We have used cortisone in connection with foot problems in horses. It is effective anti inflamitory and good on circulation reducing swelling but you are warned to get them off as soon as possible. I will paste a little caution that goes with cortisone for people.
"Can I get a cortisone injection more than once?
Yes. There is no rule as to how many cortisone injections can be given. Often physicians do not want to give more than three, but there is not really a specific limit to the number of shots. However, there are some practical limitiations. If a cortisone injection wears off quickly or does not help the problem, then repeating it may not be worthwhile. Also, animal studies have shown effects of weakening of tendons and softening of cartilage with cortisone injections. Repeated cortisone injections multiply these effects and increase the risk of potential problems. This is the reason many physicians limit the number of injections they offer to a patient".
Some people are generally more prone to tendonitis. I have had it in elbows, forearms and achilles. Have tried toughen up and work thru it but that doesn't seem to work. Just have to back off for a while.
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Hey Toni & Derek, sorry to hear how bad your injury was. Hope it heals up soon. Unfortunalty like I said and others the only cure for serious tennis elbow is no use. As for what is mineral Ice it is a blue ointment sold like ben - gay, tiger balm, and other arthritis medication. Not sure if it is available to you but look in pharmacy or sports shop maybe. Hope fully stay away from cortisone shots I will never get one again after getting an infection from several that I recieved in my wrist. Also my opinion on those expensive elbow braces is to just use an ace / elastic bandage and keep it wrapped for a while even after it stops hurting.
Best wishes.
Best wishes.
Hi Toni,
My condolances. The only thing worse than watching a husband in pain is trying to LIVE WITH a husband in pain! Sometimes trying to get them to STOP is like talking to a brick. (I'm living with one who is going in for shoulder surgery soon, and it's very frustrating.)
BUT....I know how crazy, frustrated, depressed, ANGRY one can feel when their body just won't do what it's supposed to....I'm a lousy patient also.
I do hope I'm not reading that right and Derek is not climbing while using codeine. Really screws up judgement and reaction time.
Oh...Vioxx was recalled because it was shown to have a high occurance of heart attacks and strokes. You can google 'vioxx recall' and find out more.
Good luck to you both.
My condolances. The only thing worse than watching a husband in pain is trying to LIVE WITH a husband in pain! Sometimes trying to get them to STOP is like talking to a brick. (I'm living with one who is going in for shoulder surgery soon, and it's very frustrating.)
BUT....I know how crazy, frustrated, depressed, ANGRY one can feel when their body just won't do what it's supposed to....I'm a lousy patient also.
I do hope I'm not reading that right and Derek is not climbing while using codeine. Really screws up judgement and reaction time.
Oh...Vioxx was recalled because it was shown to have a high occurance of heart attacks and strokes. You can google 'vioxx recall' and find out more.
Good luck to you both.
Derek
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Who's for a game?
G'day veiwers, ......Derek back in the seat!
Firstly a REALY BIG thank you to everyone for their kind thoughts and exelent advice!
One of the funniest things i've read here in ages, was Toni's reply to you all, dident she do a good job.. ( Might be able to get her to post under Derek"s lady, soon) lol...
Secondly, what happened was.... I had just cut through a large limb with a heavey saw, it went a bit quick and was caught a little off balance, i was useing it one handed and it was sort of comeing for my leg, and as you do, pulled up on it to stop it.
As my elbow was sore anyway, i realise now that i had my arm bent and with that used my wrist/forarm muscle to stop it.
OUCH, somthing went horrably wrong, i "hung" around a few minutes, waiting for the "stars" to stop spinning round my eyes, and took a very long time to prussic down left handed.
Absolute agony!.....Not sure what i had done, thought for sure i had ripped my arm in two.. least thats how it felt.. Managed to get my elbow into some ice( no help) and got a lift back to the motel, Toni would be here soon to take me to my DR (2.5 hours away)
Toni was a little HARSH on the "poping codine like m & ms" there ibprofin tabs 12mg codine, i take two every four hours, but will admitt to sneaking in the forts from time to time.
I did on the way home and was to smashed to see anyone much less the doc, plus i allready had an appointment the next day for the injections.
By morning it looked ridiclaus, swollen to buggery, too sore to touch with ice, we speed up the appointment..
The good news is that my elbow is still stuffed from the tennis elbow, the bad news is i seem to have pulled/strained/possably ripped or torn the extensor digitorum (forarm muscle) down my right arm..
I have it strapped to my chest (even typing) tring to give it absolute rest. It is way to sore to let the doc check it out to much.
Bonus for Toni, there is to much fluid to give me the cortizone anyway, AND i WONT now following all the advice i have received,
Toni would prefer i would listen to her, but is happy that i am going to listen to most of you.
The "shark's guts" cream as i call it, is rancid...Smells like rotten fish and ecualiptus, and so far has done nothing for me. We also got it and the other thing in a capsual too. (WHACK "sharks cartalige" is expensive)..As a result of the failure of the antiinflamitorys to arrest the tennis elbow, apperantly i run a risk of intestine/heart/kidney problems if i continue to take them!
Now thursday nite and i miss them allready, they must of been doing somthing, Natural stuff only, it better start working soon!!!!
About the only thing i dont agree with in all the sugestions is that rest will fix it..IMO i dont think so..I just had a couple of months off, still did all the exersizers i should, and stayed in shape...
It was ten times worse with the time off, there have been days when it hasent bothered me at all, the next is "out there"
I'll agree with my wife here, it seams to make cents..
Untill the scar tissue is brocken up and removed, i will allways have problems with it.
When the swelling goes down a bit we are going to try acupunture with elecric wires going throuhg it? sounds like fun doesent it? Apperantly i have control of the "dial" and one wire is "to hot" turn up another one...Costs AU$75.00 per visit (lasts ten mins) and might need six visits, anyone tried that (can't rembember the name of it just now) The place is 5 hours away, long way for 10 mins!
I have to do somthing eles, modern medicine and there pills arn't doing it..So as a result of the elbow glitch, i have stressed out and possabily damaged other parts of the arm!
If any thing let this all be a lesson to us, and esspeacialy the new climbers coming through the ranks, dont let this happen to you...
In fact a new thread on "how to avoid "old age" in climbers"
would of been great for me years ago!..Would of known what to look out for and thats just arms..I'm sure ASers have some valuable input on knees/sholders/wrists and the like.
The very way we use our bodies to gain height, IS going to lead to problems that i for one would like to pass along..."PROTECT YOUR ELBOWS" even if there not sore yet!!
This has taken hours to write( more reason to look after your arms) i stink like the bottom of a biluge(glucosamine) and taking a shower is harder than you think with one arm..
Thanx again for the amazing support...AS rocks...Derek & co..
Ps CHE Toni wants to send you a PM when i show her how, sure you wont mind. ( Proberly wants to winge about husbands!?)
bye for now...
G'day veiwers, ......Derek back in the seat!
Firstly a REALY BIG thank you to everyone for their kind thoughts and exelent advice!
One of the funniest things i've read here in ages, was Toni's reply to you all, dident she do a good job.. ( Might be able to get her to post under Derek"s lady, soon) lol...
Secondly, what happened was.... I had just cut through a large limb with a heavey saw, it went a bit quick and was caught a little off balance, i was useing it one handed and it was sort of comeing for my leg, and as you do, pulled up on it to stop it.
As my elbow was sore anyway, i realise now that i had my arm bent and with that used my wrist/forarm muscle to stop it.
OUCH, somthing went horrably wrong, i "hung" around a few minutes, waiting for the "stars" to stop spinning round my eyes, and took a very long time to prussic down left handed.
Absolute agony!.....Not sure what i had done, thought for sure i had ripped my arm in two.. least thats how it felt.. Managed to get my elbow into some ice( no help) and got a lift back to the motel, Toni would be here soon to take me to my DR (2.5 hours away)
Toni was a little HARSH on the "poping codine like m & ms" there ibprofin tabs 12mg codine, i take two every four hours, but will admitt to sneaking in the forts from time to time.
I did on the way home and was to smashed to see anyone much less the doc, plus i allready had an appointment the next day for the injections.
By morning it looked ridiclaus, swollen to buggery, too sore to touch with ice, we speed up the appointment..
The good news is that my elbow is still stuffed from the tennis elbow, the bad news is i seem to have pulled/strained/possably ripped or torn the extensor digitorum (forarm muscle) down my right arm..
I have it strapped to my chest (even typing) tring to give it absolute rest. It is way to sore to let the doc check it out to much.
Bonus for Toni, there is to much fluid to give me the cortizone anyway, AND i WONT now following all the advice i have received,
Toni would prefer i would listen to her, but is happy that i am going to listen to most of you.
The "shark's guts" cream as i call it, is rancid...Smells like rotten fish and ecualiptus, and so far has done nothing for me. We also got it and the other thing in a capsual too. (WHACK "sharks cartalige" is expensive)..As a result of the failure of the antiinflamitorys to arrest the tennis elbow, apperantly i run a risk of intestine/heart/kidney problems if i continue to take them!
Now thursday nite and i miss them allready, they must of been doing somthing, Natural stuff only, it better start working soon!!!!
About the only thing i dont agree with in all the sugestions is that rest will fix it..IMO i dont think so..I just had a couple of months off, still did all the exersizers i should, and stayed in shape...
It was ten times worse with the time off, there have been days when it hasent bothered me at all, the next is "out there"
I'll agree with my wife here, it seams to make cents..
Untill the scar tissue is brocken up and removed, i will allways have problems with it.
When the swelling goes down a bit we are going to try acupunture with elecric wires going throuhg it? sounds like fun doesent it? Apperantly i have control of the "dial" and one wire is "to hot" turn up another one...Costs AU$75.00 per visit (lasts ten mins) and might need six visits, anyone tried that (can't rembember the name of it just now) The place is 5 hours away, long way for 10 mins!
I have to do somthing eles, modern medicine and there pills arn't doing it..So as a result of the elbow glitch, i have stressed out and possabily damaged other parts of the arm!
If any thing let this all be a lesson to us, and esspeacialy the new climbers coming through the ranks, dont let this happen to you...
In fact a new thread on "how to avoid "old age" in climbers"
would of been great for me years ago!..Would of known what to look out for and thats just arms..I'm sure ASers have some valuable input on knees/sholders/wrists and the like.
The very way we use our bodies to gain height, IS going to lead to problems that i for one would like to pass along..."PROTECT YOUR ELBOWS" even if there not sore yet!!
This has taken hours to write( more reason to look after your arms) i stink like the bottom of a biluge(glucosamine) and taking a shower is harder than you think with one arm..
Thanx again for the amazing support...AS rocks...Derek & co..
Ps CHE Toni wants to send you a PM when i show her how, sure you wont mind. ( Proberly wants to winge about husbands!?)
bye for now...
Stumper
One Man Band
Derek, Heal fast and well! DON'T overdo!!!!!
MasterBlaster
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Owwwwww
Relaxing doesn't pay the bills, though.
I feel your pain, Brother. I send positive energy.
Relaxing doesn't pay the bills, though.
I feel your pain, Brother. I send positive energy.
Abbershay
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If you continue you will have permanent damage. heres a thread which a dr is in the group.
http://forums.bulknutrition.com/?showtopic=1091
http://forums.bulknutrition.com/?showtopic=1091
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Re: Owwwwww
No it doesn't, neither does permanent disability.
No it doesn't, neither does permanent disability.
Derek
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Goingwell
Hi Abbershay, That site is great, does just every "interest" on this planet have there own talksite?... I've even found a "baby site" a bounch of parents chatting about kids..How cool for the mums..(and single dads)
I am going to register and ask some more questions there, I have to make this "research mission" work.. (Not the Baby forum)
I'll be having a phone consultation with an "alernitive" healer on tuesday nite, all about my "alkalinity" apparently?...He will send me some info first, a questionerr i beleive, ill keep you all posted.
Meanwhile , feels a bit better today, Sharksguts working?
Thanx heaps for all the positive vibes!! Derek..
Im not sure if i can spell relaxxx, much less do it!...The balance between permenant disability and income is a struggle for us all at times. Loose the use of your right arm for a while and the balance swings back to "long term reaility", ie I want to pick up my grandkids one day, hence "burning it out now" for the sake of a few bucks (smaller picture) could never be worth it!!!
The pic is cool Butch, i'll keep it as my screen saver, see if it rubs off. Cheers guys (and gals) take it easy on your w/end..D
Hi Abbershay, That site is great, does just every "interest" on this planet have there own talksite?... I've even found a "baby site" a bounch of parents chatting about kids..How cool for the mums..(and single dads)
I am going to register and ask some more questions there, I have to make this "research mission" work.. (Not the Baby forum)
I'll be having a phone consultation with an "alernitive" healer on tuesday nite, all about my "alkalinity" apparently?...He will send me some info first, a questionerr i beleive, ill keep you all posted.
Meanwhile , feels a bit better today, Sharksguts working?
Thanx heaps for all the positive vibes!!
Derek..Im not sure if i can spell relaxxx, much less do it!...The balance between permenant disability and income is a struggle for us all at times. Loose the use of your right arm for a while and the balance swings back to "long term reaility", ie I want to pick up my grandkids one day, hence "burning it out now" for the sake of a few bucks (smaller picture) could never be worth it!!!
The pic is cool Butch, i'll keep it as my screen saver, see if it rubs off. Cheers guys (and gals) take it easy on your w/end..D
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