the all aussie dribble thread!

[ausneil 1]

I'll be darn! I haven't seen that stuff in years - don't miss it much.

I'm with you on that subject Terry, i thought i liked snow too until i had to work in it and the weather leading up to it.
Speeking on weather, its quiet cold outside here tonight and i have the fire going, not bad for december.

 

[Terry Syd]

Yeah Neil, it's also been cool up here on the Plateau. I have a fire in the wood stove right now.

Maybe you can help some of us novices on chainsaw sharpening concepts. I'm waffling along in this thread - http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/186843-5.htm - trying to get my head around some of the fine points on chain sharpening. I'm not trying to make a race chain (not yet anyway), but knowing the principles involved with sharpening the chain may allow me to make a small change in the way I sharpen so that I can improve my work chains.

 

[ausneil 1]

Yeah Neil, it's also been cool up here on the Plateau. I have a fire in the wood stove right now.

Maybe you can help some of us novices on chainsaw sharpening concepts. I'm waffling along in this thread - http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/186843-5.htm - trying to get my head around some of the fine points on chain sharpening. I'm not trying to make a race chain (not yet anyway), but knowing the principles involved with sharpening the chain may allow me to make a small change in the way I sharpen so that I can improve my work chains.

No worries terry, would be a lot easier to simply spend a day with you on chain or we are planing a training day in january.
Maybe we could arrange a day soon up at your place, i havn't took the new ute up comboine as yet.

Speeking ute, i was told today the parts have arrived and my rodeo, engine is stripped on the bench and awaiting a rebuild.
Because they have been so flatout with impatient costomers they asked if they could work on it when not so buisey and intern would adjust the labour cost accordingly.
Its good when buisneses can work together instead of just take, take,take all the time and expect big jobs done yesturday and a rock bottom price.

 

[Terry Syd]

Do you have those parts for the turbo rebuild yet? We could fix up the turbo and then do some chain work.

The training day in January sounds interesting, do you have any more information on it?

 

[ausneil 1]

Do you have those parts for the turbo rebuild yet? We could fix up the turbo and then do some chain work.

The training day in January sounds interesting, do you have any more information on it?

No terry, the ute is at fernhill tyres and i have not been near it since they got it.

The training day will be up at armidale on a members farm, we are still planning at the moment as we don't want it to clash with one of our race days being nsw or qld. so all i can say is sometime in jan we will do it, you could come up for the day if you liked, rick has been to one we held over singleton way.

 

[David (saltas)]

Scored some good second hand step treads that were longer and thicker than the old ones on the front stairs.

They had bee on metal stringers so there are some bolt holes in them but I don't care.

I routed out the old slots removing the rotten wood, still keeping the 175mm hight between treads.

I took more out of the stringer away from the house as it had more rotten wood in it.

Last time I did this I did the worst one and I had to take a large piece out and inlaid a new piece with polyurethane glue and routed a new slot in that piece.

The inlaid piece had a large rebate on the side that was pressed into the old stringer it has bee holding up for a couple of years now.

This job will keep the stairs in service for a couple more years but I will have to build a new set of stairs. I replaced the back stairs about ten years ago.

Job done for now

 

[Terry Syd]

I see you used an orange top 'circular saw' for cutting the lengths. - Thankfully, our local mill has plenty of tallow wood to use on various outside jobs.

 

[David (saltas)]

Nah terry the saw was for the demolition.

Woke the wife up at 8am on Sunday morning with a chainsaw cutting the old treads out of the stairs.

The saw cuts the tread and leaves some room to wiggle them out as they are nailed in from the outside after they are slipped into place

The humidity was 90% last night

Today it was 34 and 60% but it felt like 39deg

I used the drop saw in the work bench for maken the treads the right length

 

[tdi-rick]

No terry, the ute is at fernhill tyres and i have not been near it since they got it.

The training day will be up at armidale on a members farm, we are still planning at the moment as we don't want it to clash with one of our race days being nsw or qld. so all i can say is sometime in jan we will do it, you could come up for the day if you liked, rick has been to one we held over singleton way.

I'd like to try and get there again and Armidale is just as close as Gresford for me.
Actually came back through there on Tuesday night.

Hope everyone's OK, been frigging busy around here for the last two months between work (been at it again today and another day on the same job tomorrow) and family stuff.

 

[ausneil 1]

I'd like to try and get there again and Armidale is just as close as Gresford for me.
Actually came back through there on Tuesday night.

Hope everyone's OK, been frigging busy around here for the last two months between work (been at it again today and another day on the same job tomorrow) and family stuff.

G'day rick, yes i know what you mean being buisy, i'm in the same boat.
You missed a top day at walcha, was some top close racing, the banna benders took some money home again.
Yes come on up to phils farm in jan, training day and if you get there early enough he may give you a tour which is worth seeing, he owns a big farm.


Good job david, something i cannot do (without stuffing it up)

 

[David (saltas)]

helping the inlaws

Came home today and found the son in law and the father in law doing car maintenance in the street in front of my place.
seems they had borrowed some tools, I suspect the wife said that was ok.

They had replaced the fuel filter in the tank of a Hyundai elantra 2.0L and it would not start.
After watching the show for a while I could not watch any more.

The symptoms had me beet for a while as I had not seen what they had done and had no idea about the in tank set up.
My first clue was the fuel gauge almost E,
(Dragged, to harsh) Drove the Son in law to the servo with a jerry can and put 20 litres in the tank.
Turned the key and fuel gushed out of the tank, Excellent I thought.
Still no start.
I pulled the injectors and rail out as one and held number 4 end up high.
Removed that injector and repeated.

I though I could feel positive pressure and then a slight negative pressure on my thumb????

Scratching my head it is like a non return valve is not working, "How bad was the old filter?, could the the pump be stuffed too?"
Maybee

So we pull the rear seat out to access the pump filter sender assembly.
This was the first time I had seen it and I kept pulling it apart and tasting bits and pieces to see if the worked as I imagined.
The pump was fine, NRV in the top of pump was fine. Plugged filter onto the top of the pump and it leaked like a xxxxxx.

Eairlier In proceedings I asked about a o-ring sitting on the radiator support panel, The o-ring had a chunk missing out of the inside of it, It looked like it was off a garden hose, I was told they found it on the road. I askd FIL to pas it too me, I tried it to see if it fitted inside the filter assembly but it did not.

Fil Said hang on a minute "There was new bit but I did not know were it went" he returned with a black natural rubber sleeve that sealing ribs inside and out.

"You are ####ting me", "All that time and you had a knew part that you did not fit" ...Count to ten........

I put the rubber in the filter inlet and the pump out let now sealed, Resembled the tank unit and fitted it.
Installed the injectors and It started.

I have left out the bit about flat batteries, other red hearings and a sunburnt neck.

 

[splitpost]

Came home today and found the son in law and the father in law doing car maintenance in the street in front of my place.
seems they had borrowed some tools, I suspect the wife said that was ok.

They had replaced the fuel filter in the tank of a Hyundai elantra 2.0L and it would not start.
After watching the show for a while I could not watch any more.

The symptoms had me beet for a while as I had not seen what they had done and had no idea about the in tank set up.
My first clue was the fuel gauge almost E,
(Dragged, to harsh) Drove the Son in law to the servo with a jerry can and put 20 litres in the tank.
Turned the key and fuel gushed out of the tank, Excellent I thought.
Still no start.
I pulled the injectors and rail out as one and held number 4 end up high.
Removed that injector and repeated.

I though I could feel positive pressure and then a slight negative pressure on my thumb????

Scratching my head it is like a non return valve is not working, "How bad was the old filter?, could the the pump be stuffed too?"
Maybee

So we pull the rear seat out to access the pump filter sender assembly.
This was the first time I had seen it and I kept pulling it apart and tasting bits and pieces to see if the worked as I imagined.
The pump was fine, NRV in the top of pump was fine. Plugged filter onto the top of the pump and it leaked like a xxxxxx.

Eairlier In proceedings I asked about a o-ring sitting on the radiator support panel, The o-ring had a chunk missing out of the inside of it, It looked like it was off a garden hose, I was told they found it on the road. I askd FIL to pas it too me, I tried it to see if it fitted inside the filter assembly but it did not.

Fil Said hang on a minute "There was new bit but I did not know were it went" he returned with a black natural rubber sleeve that sealing ribs inside and out.

"You are ####ting me", "All that time and you had a knew part that you did not fit" ...Count to ten........

I put the rubber in the filter inlet and the pump out let now sealed, Resembled the tank unit and fitted it.
Installed the injectors and It started.

I have left out the bit about flat batteries, other red hearings and a sunburnt neck.

Sounds like you also forgot about the raised blood pressure and the effin under your breath:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Aussie Dave]

Came home today and found the son in law and the father in law doing car maintenance in the street in front of my place.
seems they had borrowed some tools, I suspect the wife said that was ok.

They had replaced the fuel filter in the tank of a Hyundai elantra 2.0L and it would not start.
After watching the show for a while I could not watch any more.

The symptoms had me beet for a while as I had not seen what they had done and had no idea about the in tank set up.
My first clue was the fuel gauge almost E,
(Dragged, to harsh) Drove the Son in law to the servo with a jerry can and put 20 litres in the tank.
Turned the key and fuel gushed out of the tank, Excellent I thought.
Still no start.
I pulled the injectors and rail out as one and held number 4 end up high.
Removed that injector and repeated.

I though I could feel positive pressure and then a slight negative pressure on my thumb????

Scratching my head it is like a non return valve is not working, "How bad was the old filter?, could the the pump be stuffed too?"
Maybee

So we pull the rear seat out to access the pump filter sender assembly.
This was the first time I had seen it and I kept pulling it apart and tasting bits and pieces to see if the worked as I imagined.
The pump was fine, NRV in the top of pump was fine. Plugged filter onto the top of the pump and it leaked like a xxxxxx.

Eairlier In proceedings I asked about a o-ring sitting on the radiator support panel, The o-ring had a chunk missing out of the inside of it, It looked like it was off a garden hose, I was told they found it on the road. I askd FIL to pas it too me, I tried it to see if it fitted inside the filter assembly but it did not.

Fil Said hang on a minute "There was new bit but I did not know were it went" he returned with a black natural rubber sleeve that sealing ribs inside and out.

"You are ####ting me", "All that time and you had a knew part that you did not fit" ...Count to ten........

I put the rubber in the filter inlet and the pump out let now sealed, Resembled the tank unit and fitted it.
Installed the injectors and It started.

I have left out the bit about flat batteries, other red hearings and a sunburnt neck.

Just as well you turned up...they would still be there by the sound of it:msp_ohmy:

 

[Terry Syd]

They didn't have their own tools, that should have been your first clue.

Hi Rick, glad to see you back on the forum.

 

[Stihlman441]

Terry how did you go with the Mini Tach.

 

[Terry Syd]

I wish I had it sooner. I could have used it as I was building the saw. The tach allows you to monitor the changes you make to see if you are making progess or whether your just fooling yourself.

I wanted to see if I needed to drop the POP any further. I thought it was close, but the tach can pick up a few hundred RPM that my hearing and subjective senses can't pick up. It looks like the POP is in the ball park. I did lean the High speed needle just a tad to pick up a few more revs at cutting speed.

Peak horsepower is around 10,500 rpm, which corresponds to the .0066 m/sec at 10,500 rpm that I got from Blair's work (I thought his figures may be for peak torque). Peak torque is around 8,750. The torque is still relatively good down to 7,000. I took the saw down to 6,000 and it still wouldn't bog, but it was cutting so ridiculously slow that I would never use it. The POP work may not be an Auto Tune carb, but it works good enough for me.

With the broad powerband I am running an 8-pin without any problems of bogging. With the 18" bar buried in Aussie hardwood I can still hold 10,000 rpm with just a little pressure on the bar.

The saw has a 13,000 limiter, but it isn't a problem. The flat torque curve wants to rev the saw well past 13,000, but on the smaller wood I just load the saw to keep it below 12,000. It cuts best between 10,000 and 11,000.

I managed to get the saw modded without the tach, but it would have been a heck of a lot easier with the tach.

 

[Stihlman441]

Good stuff Terry,yes they are very usefull little tach for small adjustments in ya tune as you have found,and good to see the hrs and fuel use as well,all my saws have them.:smile2:

 

[deye223]

Good stuff Terry,yes they are very usefull little tach for small adjustments in ya tune as you have found,and good to see the hrs and fuel use as well,all my saws have them.:smile2:

gday andrew did you get the 441 sorted out yet with the tach

 

[Stihlman441]

No mate,the idle and hr work but thats it.

 

[deye223]

No mate,the idle and hr work but thats it.

bummer