Ive experienced some of what others here are describing. I guess my issue with SB lids is how flimsy they feel compared to a mac t. I was wearing one for my last clock cleaning 2 or 3 yrs ago. The aluminum compromised before the suspension did, (only one tab broke.) I ended up with 5 staples & a sore neck. The subsiquent SB was on par with the old one, so I found a mint mac t. The T is a little heavier, but not nearly as tinny as the SB, in my meager opinion. If I had that hat here, I'd put it up for everyones vewing pleasure..