The Descriptive Process

[Gologit]

Madhatte said it right. If the land owner doesn't really know what he wants, or if he doesn't know how to communicate what his goals are, there's no way you can do a job that will please him.

Too many people want a job done as cheaply as possible... cheap is the key word here... and done perfectly at the same time.

From what you've said I think I'd give that whole deal a good leaving alone.

 

[Metals406]

If I had a dollar for everytime a general contractor used subs to estimate jobs, only to never use them -- I'd be a billionaire. Pretty chickenshit way to do things in my opinion.

 

[madhatte]

Pretty chickenshit way to do things in my opinion.

100% true.

 

[treeslayer2003]

When I hand in a sale for bid, I HAVE ALREADY DONE THESE THINGS: 1) clearly delineate sale boundaries 2) clearly delineate things within those boundaries that need protected, such as wetlands, raptor nests, and archaeological sites 3) clearly delineate specific trees to be taken, and, as necessary, specific trees NOT to be taken 4) research laws/regulations which could prevent the sale 5) contact involved stakeholders such as F&W for input regarding their needs 6) write a prescription clearly outlining goals of this entry and desired future condition of the stand 7) clearly list acceptable logging methods as part of the prescription.

EDIT: you can safely assume that it has been cruised at least twice: once to determine what's in there, and once to establish what I'm taking out. You can also safely assume that I have made detailed maps of all of this.

If I don't do these things, the sale doesn't happen. Once the contract is written and signed, my responsibility is done, but the end condition of the stand following treatment reflects as much on my planning a it does the logger's harvest methods.

gawd i wish you worked over here lol...........pro foresters here leave a whole lot to be desired........... i wind up doing most it and some of what they did do i have to redo..............county guys are only ones i trust so far.

 

[madhatte]

gawd i wish you worked over here lol...........pro foresters here leave a whole lot to be desired........... i wind up doing most it and some of what they did do i have to redo..............county guys are only ones i trust so far.

Forestry is expensive, but it's worth it!

 

[Cedarkerf]

Had some visitors saturday. Thought it was a big nest that we hadnt noticed in one of our trees but an hour later the whole bunch was gone. The second pic the dry branch in the middle is what they were clumped on just a swarm passing thru.

 

[lfnh]

Nice to see that!
Got a low rent place they could stay, lol !

 

[Westboastfaller]

Had some visitors saturday. Thought it was a big nest that we hadnt noticed in one of our trees but an hour later the whole bunch was gone. The second pic the dry branch in the middle is what they were clumped on just a swarm passing thru.


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Wow.. I've never seen that before, Is that Wa ?
I would bet they're the Africanized bee (killer bees) Hybrid
They are known to swarm 4-5 times a season (I've heard) attacking the "western honey bees nest. AKA, Italian/European honey bee which they were bread from along with the Iberian and the African honey bee in 1950 in Brazil .
They escaped and have been in North America since'85

 

[northmanlogging]

Too cold for africanized bees in warshington, they need it pretty warm year round.

More likely just a hobby hive that got loose, happens all the time. Not like a puppy that whines when it don't like the living conditions, bees will pack up and leave.

 

[slowp]

Once again, I have drugged up to prepare for this morning's clearcutting of grass and weeds. I did that on Monday and broke down. I ran the weedwhacker into the lesser known saw shop in Chehalis. Monday seemed to be a day of broke down weedwhackers for them. Landscape folks with pickups full of equipment were dropping them off like mad. I left to go shopping, which was hell. I felt skinny in Walmart and couldn't get down the veggie aisle so I actually asked a woman to throw me a garlic and she did.
Teamwork amongst strangers!

The sawshop gave me a call, as usual, much earlier than predicted. We'll soon see if they fixed it. Apparently the model I have has become known for having ignition problems, just like their newer saw 461? did.

 

[Samlock]

Last night someone put my chain backwards.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Sam, LOL
ms. P i hadn't herd that about 461s..........bad coils perhaps

busted a coolant hose on the skidder......be here in the morning. it was cloudy n cool too...........87 lol.

 

[slowp]

The weedwhacker ran, but still shut itself off. It may have to go back in. I am done for a while...sneeze cough.

I hope I have not revealed the trees for the deer to more easily see and eat. Most of the trees are netted, spruced and tubed.

 

[northmanlogging]

Benadryl has become my friend during the summer months...

So far no issues with any of my 461s other then the whole running em over thing...

 

[SliverPicker]

The coil on my 460 lasted right around 2 weeks before cooking itself.

 

[slowp]

Ruh roh!
http://www.theolympian.com/2014/07/...trikes-five-overpasses.html?sp=/99/224/&ihp=1

 

[Samlock]

Ruh roh!
http://www.theolympian.com/2014/07/...trikes-five-overpasses.html?sp=/99/224/&ihp=1

Well, they say: "Never look back."

 

[madhatte]

That's my neck of the woods. Glad I avoided the traffic. Fridays always suck around here.

 

[slowp]

That's my neck of the woods. Glad I avoided the traffic. Fridays always suck around here.

I got caught in something yesterday afternoon going north. I exited at the LaBree road but so did everybody else. I ended up canceling an errand. In Centralia!

 

[Westboastfaller]

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The "project manager" points at a patch of timber that averages 80% slope

1: 1.25 ratio about 39°
Its rise 'over' run but when the rise is over the run...
I run.. no I don't, but I have rolled and bounced a few times.

I agree, it sounds like a dog!