The "Not So Pro" discussion thread...of course Pros are welcome!

[bustedup]

Jr well it friday night so prolly g/f night lol

 

[treeslayer2003]

Jr well it friday night so prolly g/f night lol

more power to him. have some fun for us cat

 

[bustedup]

i'd say 100 or so, knowin the history here. grandfather born in 1890s like yers, pop said he worked with steam engines. hell, pop remembers steam locomotive when he was little.

LOL I ridden on steam loco's lol the estate mill here was originally water powered ya can still see the lade they built to run it ........there are also cutters cabins scattered around the estate ......they in ruins but ya can see the imprints of them

 

[treeslayer2003]

lotta history here, more where you are. bugs me no one cares. hey they did fix up open to public an ol grist mill here. hand hewn beams in it. they say Washington's army got flour there. this a good thing, most been washed down river.

 

[bustedup]

whatreally screwed the timber industry over here was the first war .....so much was cut for the trenches and with the second coming so close well never really re-planted .....also really land is short here

 

[treeslayer2003]

yea, I always wondered why trees don't jus come up everywhere. they say Greenland or Iceland I forget witch, was all trees till the Vikings cut um all. why they don't come back? climate change?
I get what you say land to valuable fer trees there. here if jus leave it alone trees come up.

 

[bustedup]

yea, I always wondered why trees don't jus come up everywhere. they say Greenland or Iceland I forget witch, was all trees till the Vikings cut um all. why they don't come back? climate change?
I get what you say land to valuable fer trees there. here if jus leave it alone trees come up.

I think it was Greenland .......Shetland the same I guess after ya cut em all they can't re-seed themselves

 

[treeslayer2003]

ya would think they left sumpthin. but maybe not

 

[bustedup]

ya would think they left sumpthin. but maybe not

I guess they really did clear cut lol

 

[treeslayer2003]

I hate ta clear cut now, less it all mature I advise lo against it. better ta manage and get timber to a stair stepped stand. that way always have timber. there some pieces here nothing ever done, it all died at once. looks like someone cut to death but no it jus all got ol at the same time. now start from scratch.

 

[bustedup]

I hate ta clear cut now, less it all mature I advise lo against it. better ta manage and get timber to a stair stepped stand. that way always have timber. there some pieces here nothing ever done, it all died at once. looks like someone cut to death but no it jus all got ol at the same time. now start from scratch.

I agree ....unfortunately getting folks to understand management ain't easy lol........most see $$$$ and ££££ signs and just wanna cash in

 

[treeslayer2003]

your right, fortunately los like the one I workin with now, plan for the future. just as his father and my father managed the property, now he and I are doing the same. his kids or he even will have a nice stand in 20 or so years. and the saplings coming up now in 50. should have been this way all along

 

[bustedup]

Long term thinking is the way to go.......granted sometimes it hard when times get tough but in the end it will pay off

 

[bustedup]

A question.....where do you guys seethe future of logging going .....short......medium.......long term

 

[northmanlogging]

wasn't loggers that cleared Ireland, Scotland, Norway, Iceland, et. Twas sheep and Cromwell (ireland any ways...). Farmers cut the trees or let the sheep pasture in wood lots, and the sheep ate everything down to the ground causing massive erosion. That why the west of Ireland is mostly just rocks and pikeys, nothing else there

(travelers, tinkers, tinners, gypsys, crooks, bums whatever... people what live in travel trailers...)

 

[northmanlogging]

A question.....where do you guys seethe future of logging going .....short......medium.......long term

I see a move towards smaller outfits and smaller equipment, the big machines are getting spendy, diesel isn't cheap. So all these big feller bunches, huge skidders, massive loaders, chippers, processors will probably turn back into hand fallers, and line skidders, with a small loader and maybe a slasher... working smaller plots of land, good bye 300 acre jobs, think more along the lines of 5-10 and moving every couple few weeks or so

The big tower logging crews have nothing to fear from this since, most of the stuff they cut around here you just need big equipment, that and who is buying a new yarder for 1.5 million plus

 

[treeslayer2003]

A question.....where do you guys seethe future of logging going .....short......medium.......long term

I think the future is in selective harvest, where feasible anyways. they finely embrassing it here now. we been doin it for generations. they used ta say we wrong, now seems we were right all along. any were cut right 20-50 ago has good timber. 30-40 ol clear cuts still have stunted pulp.

 

[roberte]

no dealer here knows what a skip chain is either. that why I order every thing off inet.

Maybe you need to tell them with a 2x4

 

[northmanlogging]

I think the future is in selective harvest, where feasible anyways. they finely embrassing it here now. we been doin it for generations. they used ta say we wrong, now seems we were right all along. any were cut right 20-50 ago has good timber. 30-40 ol clear cuts still have stunted pulp.

I don't know man, depends largely on the type of forest, here if you want high dollar high quality Doug fir, ya gotta clear cut and then replant, hemlock and cedar not so much or spruce. The big leaf maples they just keep growing, cut em down, poison them, doesn't matter...

They went through and planted a boat load of hemlock many years ago, or just let it naturally go to seed, back when rayon was the it thing (rayon is made from hemlock fiber...) of coarse now nobody wants to wear it so we have a bunch of middle of the road hemlock of poor quality, and very little Doug Fir on private land... its a conundrum...

The east coast has different wood and different soil, so you's all get more hardwoods which do awesome in a stepped thinning/harvesting opperations. Hemlocks do better on thinning, but Dougs don't like it too much, spruce and cedar just grow to damn slow and in the strangest places to bother with thining. Besides whos buying spruce now anyway except the occasional luthier and wright bros fan...

 

[tramp bushler]

hey glen , did you cut out of carol inlet back in 99? just wondering if this was you heading out to cut.

Nope, not me. I've never cut for the helicopters. I banged nails in 99 . In 2000 I cut for Dave Donneley at Whipple Crik. Then for Turn Mt Timber . In Kake. Then banged nails for the rest of the year.