The "Not So Pro" discussion thread...of course Pros are welcome!

[twochains]

I can't even find where to take a course for any real certification. FS used to make you have "faller" certification when cutting gubment timber but the class was a joke...held zero water as for being actually able to fall a tree...the class went way ward. I heard Missouri has a good class but I don't know if certification from a neighboring state even qualifies for anything. I rarely cut in Missouri.

 

[roberte]

I get the whole safety first B.S. but why charge so much for a guy to take a simple test? All its doing is driving peIople out of work. Luckily here in Warshington you don't need and certification to run most anything... yet... Guys who advertise being licensed all it means is you have a business license, unless your into dirt work, or heavy hauling then you need special licenses, other wise you could call yourself an arborist and who's the wiser.

As far as young'uns getting into the industry, there are plenty of em getting in on the big crews in these parts, they just don't stick around long, takes a special kind of stupid to work so hard and get paid so little and still feel good about it at the end of the day. They are out there though, think of Plankton and his buddy looking to log 40 acres, they're still in college (actually from the looks of the pictures I'd say they just started college but that would be ass-u-me-ing)

Yes sir a special kind of stupid.
I do my pesky day job because I have too.
I run saws and cut timber because I want too.
I would love to tell my day job to KMA.

 

[treeslayer2003]

they come out with a gold card now and some master logger deal. it's bs, seems like the more newer stuff ya got you a "master" tc, where ya go the other nite? ya get our gold yet?

 

[roberte]

Twochains,
How did the kid do.
The hell with this work crap.

 

[treeslayer2003]

stupid = genius, dum dums can't do this man

 

[twochains]

My only form of incoming money for my family has been through either logging or sawmilling for the last 19 years. Sure I will hustle side jobs when I can but they usually involve a chainsaw or hauling hay. I love it though....#### you'd have to!

 

[treeslayer2003]

:agree2: +1 little longer. mrs. been runin school bus last two years but that her play money

 

[twochains]

Twochains,
How did the kid do.
The hell with this work crap.

Good morning fellas!!

He did GREAT!!!! I will post some pics his Momma took...I can find where she put them.

He ran (2) classes and podiumed both all night.

Results- Pro Mod class he went 1/1

90 CVT class he went 3/3 (big class several fast kids)

He rode home with me last night and was a total chatter box! His las race and trophy ceromony were around 12:30 last night! Long night for the little ones!

 

[northmanlogging]

There is a "master logger" course through WCLA (and insurance company...) but all it really does is say you took a course and your insurance will go down.

There is also a relatively new program through DNR, that lets you post and bid on private timber sales, but you have to have some certification first, haven't read into it much, since I haven't taken no certification course its no use to me, although it may be worth it if it allows me to find enough work to go logging full time. I've always hated pay to play.

 

[roberte]

Weres that Scot at this morning.

 

[twochains]

Northman, I wanted to get some fire certification being as I already had 10 hours of wildland...I need 30 more hours for a "red card" I think they call it and I have zero options of being able to even find available courses withing 8 hour drive of me.

 

[roberte]

Northman, I wanted to get some fire certification being as I already had 10 hours of wildland...I need 30 more hours for a "red card" I think they call it and I have zero options of being able to even find available courses withing 8 hour drive of me.

I see a road trip in your future.

 

[twochains]

Weres that Scot at this morning.

IDK, isn't it like 5 in the afternoon er something over there?

I flew to Sydney, Australia when I was 19 from LAX... I left on a Monday flew a total of nearly 20 hours combined and reached Sydney the same day I left the US!? Talking about jet lag... 15 straight hours from LAX to Sydney, supposed to be the longest non-stop flight you can take in the world w/o refueling.

 

[treeslayer2003]

There is a "master logger" course through WCLA (and insurance company...) but all it really does is say you took a course and your insurance will go down.

There is also a relatively new program through DNR, that lets you post and bid on private timber sales, but you have to have some certification first, haven't read into it much, since I haven't taken no certification course its no use to me, although it may be worth it if it allows me to find enough work to go logging full time. I've always hated pay to play.

that could be a good deal man, wish they'd do that here. some questionable things go on here, fortunately there are some really honest people that know me. some.

 

[twochains]

I see a road trip in your future.

I know right...But unless I get "paid" by my boss er something to go take the course...which would be zero benefits to him...then I can't afford the loss of work.

 

[roberte]

IDK, isn't it like 5 in the afternoon er something over there?

I flew to Sydney, Australia when I was 19 from LAX... I left on a Monday flew a total of nearly 20 hours combined and reached Sydney the same day I left the US!? Talking about jet lag... 15 straight hours from LAX to Sydney, supposed to be the longest non-stop flight you can take in the world w/o refueling.

It's tea time, whatever time it is

 

[treeslayer2003]

prolly is a time diff. never thought about that before

 

[twochains]

Last night I was a wreck! Switching sets of tires for my kid and freshening up clutches and stuff for his bike...plus I had to mechanic on (2) other kids quads that were in our class. I always try and help everyone out...it gets crazy though, you're trying to get your kid on the line and you look over and see the sad long faces of a kid who's having problems with their quad and potentially NOT going to get to race...I always lend a hand and get them to the line also! Fun though and the little kids and parents sure do appreciate it.

 

[treeslayer2003]

no pain in helpin out

 

[twochains]

Friday evening when I peeled out and went to the timber I am cutting I took Colt with me and met up with the LO and we went exploring! Fun! Anyway we found some huge timber that I will be cutting in the morning. I found a sweet gum on a fence line that is just massive! DBH is like 3ft and holds taper for prolly 20ft. with a total height somewhere near 100ft +! And found a few trees I am gonna send off a bluff.

On the bluff trees.. have you guys ever chokered a tree and then fell it??? Will it work??