The "Not So Pro" discussion thread...of course Pros are welcome!

[twochains]

I was gonna say that was a good clear photo from the 70's.

Hey when you all fall hazard trees that are fully engulfed in flames, how do the saws not catch on fire? Was it because of metal gas tanks? You would think the increased temps would try and vapor lock.

 

[HuskStihl]

Seriously?

I like Husky stuff ok, but when I saw this I had to chuckle

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Seriously? $32 a gallon for mix? :msp_scared:

 

[twochains]

I like Husky stuff ok, but when I saw this I had to chuckle

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Seriously? $32 a gallon for mix? :msp_scared:

Oh I know... I would burn $64 a day average. If it is the VP preload fuels... even more $$$ in a day!

My Son's race gas is VP 110 and I pay $45 for 5 gallons and Maxima High Rev full synthetic for $8....still only comes up to $53. Waaay better fuel and pre-mix and ya get 5 gallons!

 

[twochains]

So....anybody want to tell me why a chainsaw doesn't blow up while cutting fully engulfed trees? It just seems to me that the intake would pull so much extremely hot air...I can't figure out why they are not affected. Anybody....

 

[treeslayer2003]

So....anybody want to tell me why a chainsaw doesn't blow up while cutting fully engulfed trees? It just seems to me that the intake would pull so much extremely hot air...I can't figure out why they are not affected. Anybody....

they do it real quik like

 

[roberte]

So....anybody want to tell me why a chainsaw doesn't blow up while cutting fully engulfed trees? It just seems to me that the intake would pull so much extremely hot air...I can't figure out why they are not affected. Anybody....

if its a core fire (in the hollow of trunk) the fire wont combust till it hits fresh air. then again I could be full of hot, oh never mind

 

[slowp]

My friend Quick P runs her bar through burning slash piles and the saw and operator survive. I'm thinking because it is quick and only the bar is in the fire?

 

[twochains]

I never thought about it combusting when the tree falls. But on one of those PNW fire schools (can't remember which one) it showed fire coming out of the notch like a blow torch.

The more I think of it... a chainsaw would nearly be the closest a combustible engine could operate in a fire. I would think that the chain rotation would draw a fire near the crank seal would cause some trouble also.

 

[northmanlogging]

I'll stab...

First the exhaust mostly blows forward, toward the chain... over riding any kind of pull from the chain, second the cooling fan on the power head also blows air toward the clutch side helping to keep fire away from the saw if positioned correctly... this is all based on opinion and some experience in burning metal for fun...

That and I think there are rules and stuff for the fallers in fire situations for getting near trees on fire... if its to hot to be working near its to hot for the saw kind of deal?

Cody/Tarzan tree/ greystroke or somebody posted some #####in fire falling last summer... good stuff even just from a technical falling standpoint let alone the fact the thing was on fire and ####.

 

[tramp bushler]

Hey Clint ; u OK from that fall ya took yday??

 

[tramp bushler]

This is some of what I did tday.

 

[northmanlogging]

I really want to tell all ya's about my new website... its just really f'ing lame right now... needs some pictures and stuff... links to forestry related stuff and things and a #####'n back story... all lies of course...

 

[tramp bushler]

More of what I did tday. Young cottonwood

North man ; what's your web address?

 

[northmanlogging]

Not saying until it gets pretty'd up a bit... right now its got a bunch of lame connections that sort of rhyme with logging? and also Persia? which don't make no sense at all???

I will say it ends in .com

 

[Cfaller]

So....anybody want to tell me why a chainsaw doesn't blow up while cutting fully engulfed trees? It just seems to me that the intake would pull so much extremely hot air...I can't figure out why they are not affected. Anybody....

I'll give this a try. Check for overhead hazards!!! If you have water and you can put it out, put it out. If you can't do that, then you cool the ground off under the tree so your feet stay cool. Once your boots get hot it takes a while to cool down. If the tree is cat faced and it lines up with the lean its pretty straight forward then. If they don't you'll walk away and flag the area off. If it isn't cat faced and just burning inside will bore it from the back cut side to see what is in the bole of the tree. If your comfortable with the tree, then normal falling procedure, but a little faster and more looking up. Fall it toward the lean if at all possible.

Light weight bars and fire don't mix. The paint doesn't last very long on regular bars either.

If the tree was burning that hot you would never cut it. Another thing will do is cut some holes in base of the tree to give it some more air and let it rip until it comes crashing down.:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[twochains]

Storming here this morning! Think I will see what the day offers when the sun comes up.

Thanks guys for the saw vs fire explanation. I have been wondering about it...no reason to ponder on something when you have access to a sea of loggers! Just ask!

Glen- yep, I was a little sore yesterday morning but walked it off pretty quick. I hit some belly limbs on my way down and that helped a bit. Those cottonwood sticks look like they would move ya around quite a bit with drift in the wind. I bet they were pretty tall also...spooky to say the least.

 

[tramp bushler]

I'm sitting in the trick right now. Our 6 week drought in Valdez ended with a vengeance. It went from a torrential down pour to just raining steady
I hope some of this makes it up thru the pass and to Glennallen. And Tok.

 

[bustedup]

well just got home lol .....bumpy flight but hey ho ......hope y'all doing good

 

[bustedup]

Hey Tramp ya fancy coming climbing one for me lol.......I can't climb it on spurs and flip line lol you ever climbed on a line with spurs ??? only asking as been a while since I done that any advice would be greatly appreciated

 

[twochains]

Hey there Men! Hope everyone had a good safe one and a good week!

I just wanted to say what a good boss I have! Even though I only put in a half day yesterday...and that is what I told him...he insisted on paying me the full day! Now to me, that is super nice! He knew I was hurting yesterday in 101* to 104* temps, on top of it all, he thanked me for my week! Working for someone like that really makes ya want to work that much harder. Still no saw yet...but I mentioned it again! :msp_w00t: