Understood and I for the most part agree. That's why you had rules at your gtg's and that's the way it should be. However I do remember one rule in the 372 allowed the use of any piston as long as they were 50MM.
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Understood and I for the most part agree. That's why you had rules at your gtg's and that's the way it should be. However I do remember one rule in the 372 allowed the use of any piston as long as they were 50MM.
Not all saws were built by their owner. All I'm saying is that I can often take a saw and cut a faster time with it. You really have to feel and listen to the saw. Some guys just aren't good at that. If we're allowed to run our own saws, then it's up to the owner to make that call to either run it for himself or have someone else do so for him
Mastermind
Work Saw Specialist
That would only work in knot free wood. Right?
They way Terry set this up from the get go was and is the best way to test and build work saws. I really like the all stock parts rule too. Although I didn't see any saw built with a non-stock piston with any advantage over the rest. I also liked the poplar cant Terry had set up for testing. More than one cut would have been a good idea but it gets into a lot of wood.
Mastermind
Work Saw Specialist
For the record my MS460 had a 460 piston. 
For the record my MS460 had a 460 piston.
Mine too. With no fancy machine work either.
I totally see what you're saying, but that's the chance every builder takes when building saws for strangers.
i did allow other than oem piston in order for folks to be able buy a windowed piston instead of having to grind the windows into the oem. i prefer oem windowed 268 pistons in the 372 myself so that i dont have to window an oem piston. just a time savings not any advantage to it. when i build a saw for a customer i window the piston myself or if im pushed for time i put in a 268 instead. im really not into all the piston swapping for a work saw. but if im building a race saw id be looking for any advantage with piston swaps from other brands or saws
My 346 and 064/066 will both have the correct piston, but perhaps aftermarket.
parrisw
Tree Freak
I take it you know who it is that asked me then?
My idea of a work saw is one that will run day in day out, all day long, and put lots of wood down. If you can do that with a swapped piston, bored carb or whatever, then so be it, just has to be reliable. If the build off states that the saw has to have with what it came with then that's fine too, for the 460 build I wasn't aware of any such rule, just had to be OEM bore.
OK that makes sense, I pretty much feel the same way, I always try to go with OEM myself.
If the purpose is to test saws: same saw, same chain, same operator. (Sorry, Randy.)
If you want to race, do whatever you want.
parrisw
Tree Freak
Ya, I agree, then every saw gets a fair shake.
You don't go to a race to test the saws potential compared to the others.
You race a saw to push it's limits to the max to do whatever you can to win.
You race a saw to push it's limits to the max to do whatever you can to win.
i agree 10000%
thats why i asked a long time ago in the thread is this a work saw build off
Everyone builds their saws a little differently though. You're actually testing the builders here. If I know how to get more out of my saw, while still being a reliable worksaw, then that's what this is all about. Even a piston swap is standard for some guys. Simon comes to mind there. I'm sure his recipe is built around that. I can't see not allowing that.
Mastermind
Work Saw Specialist
Ain't hurting my limited feelings none my friend. :hmm3grin2orange:
wigglesworth
Booned
Man, y'all sure are a whiney bunch 
Anyhoo, I see terrys point of testing the saws, not racing, but come on, it's still racing! Were lookin for the fastest saw, right?
I'll pick up a roll of RSC, and all chains will come from the same roll. Fair enough? It will actually come out a bit cheaper on chain that way.
All using 32" bars. Sound good?
I think everybody should run there own saws. I'd hate to see the strongest saw lose, and people be complaining cause the operator goofed. If your running it, and u goof, u got nobody to blame but yourself.
Also, I can get whatever kind of wood we want. Poplar or red oak, it don't really matter to me.
Anyhoo, I see terrys point of testing the saws, not racing, but come on, it's still racing! Were lookin for the fastest saw, right?
I'll pick up a roll of RSC, and all chains will come from the same roll. Fair enough? It will actually come out a bit cheaper on chain that way.
All using 32" bars. Sound good?
I think everybody should run there own saws. I'd hate to see the strongest saw lose, and people be complaining cause the operator goofed. If your running it, and u goof, u got nobody to blame but yourself.
Also, I can get whatever kind of wood we want. Poplar or red oak, it don't really matter to me.
32" is good. I don't own a 36" 3003 mount bar.
