The Ultra Rare (in USA) MS241CM

[Zombiechopper]

I tried searching for 543Xp and it says this:

Nur Wörter mit 2 oder mehr Zeichen werden akzeptiert. Maximal 200 Zeichen insgesamt. Leerzeichen werden zur Trennung von Worten verwendet, "" kann für die Suche nach ganzen Zeichenfolgen benutzt werden (keine Indexsuche). UND, ODER und NICHT sind Suchoperatoren, die den standardmäßigen Operator überschreiben. +/|/- entspricht UND, ODER und NICHT als Operatoren. Alle Suchwörter werden zu Kleinschreibung konvertiert.

Since there are no numbers, it must mean that it was too fast and too powerful to measure. Any German speakers that can confirm my analysis?

 

[Zombiechopper]

Well, the weight is not that different....

Zing!

What are the weight specs on 241 vs 543 Niko?

 

[SawTroll]

Zing!

What are the weight specs on 241 vs 543 Niko?

The specs are 4.5kg for the 543, 4.7 for the 241 and 4.9 for the 550.

We already know that the test results are 4.8 for the 241 and 5.0 for the 550 - but there are no test results availiable for the 543 yet.

Btw, the 543xp has turned up on the web-site here now, but no price yet, so I assume it isn't actually availiable.
I'm not interested in any saw of the current "breed" of 42/43cc saws anyway, as the "losses" seem to be much larger than the gains compared to the 346xp/550xp.

 

[RonL]

A nine pound professional grade 42cc saw makes sense to me. A ten+ pound 42cc saw does not. Especially when there are 10.6 and 10.8 pound 50cc saws.

RonL

 

[ptjeep]

My fingers are crossed that the 241 will show up in the US in the next couple of years. I've been trying to find a reasonable deal on a ms 200 rear handle but for what they are bringing on ebay, i could almost import a 241.:censored:

 

[tallguys]

A nine pound professional grade 42cc saw makes sense to me. A ten+ pound 42cc saw does not. Especially when there are 10.6 and 10.8 pound 50cc saws.

RonL

When the 42cc saw ends up costing little more than half what the same weight 50cc saw does, all of a sudden it ends up making sense to a whole lot of people.

 

[SawTroll]

When the 42cc saw ends up costing little more than half what the same weight 50cc saw does, all of a sudden it ends up making sense to a whole lot of people.

What does it really matter in the long run what a 50cc or 42cc costs, specially with the generally low prices in North America?

 

[Rudolf73]

The 241 and 261 cost the same over here, I assume it would be similar in other markets...

 

[tallguys]

What does it really matter in the long run what a 50cc or 42cc costs, specially with the generally low prices in North America?

Must be nice to be independently wealthy, unfortunately the great many of us actually need to budget for most of life's surprises and a chainsaw is just one of many expenditures.

If one can purchase a quality tool to serve their needs and save a few hundred in the process, how is that a bad thing? Most need many tools, whether for work or for hobby.

Factor in a mortgage, car payments and all the rest and all of a sudden a several hundred dollar difference can actually become a big enough deal for many.

 

[SawTroll]

The 241 and 261 cost the same over here, I assume it would be similar in other markets...

They both cost substantially less than what a 550xp does (even on campaign) here, but there surely is a difference between the 241 and the 261.

Actually I am not sure if the 550xp price really is a campaign price (they don't really say so), but it is about the same price that the 346xp used to be at, when on campaign...

 

[H 2 H]

They both cost substantially less than what a 550xp does (even on campaign) here, but there surely is a difference between the 241 and the 261.

Actually I am not sure if the 550xp price really is a campaign price (they don't really say so), but it is about the same price that the 346xp used to be at, when on campaign...

So you have ran a 241 and 261 :taped:

 

[SawTroll]

Must be nice to be independently wealthy, ...

I am not wealthy at all, specially not after my wife died, and I had to retire from work for health reasons - it just is about priorities, and I have not been known to buy a lot of saws.

 

[SawTroll]

So you have ran a 241 and 261 :taped:

Have you lost the ability to read as well now - my post was about prices, and nothing else. :jester:

 

[H 2 H]

Have you lost the ability to read as well now - my post was about prices, and nothing else. :jester:

Na I just reading about things you know little about :taped:

 

[SawTroll]

There is a rim sprocket kit for them, it is on the ipl
1143 007 1002 3/8P 7tooth
1143 007 1003 .325 7tooth

Edit:
The CMQ model only has the spurs

Who cares about that Q version anyway - the ones that do have to be seriously "challenged"....:msp_rolleyes:

Anyway, it looks really bad when a pro saw doesn't come with a drum and rim - I don't understand at all why they do that?

 

[Stihlman441]

Good thing about the .325 7 rim sprocket is slightly bigger in dia than the 7 spur.:smile2:

 

[tallguys]

I am not wealthy at all, specially not after my wife died, and I had to retire from work for health reasons - it just is about priorities, and I have not been known to buy a lot of saws.

Precisely my point, and if a saw that costs under $400 can get the job done just as well as one that costs over $700, then all the better.

 

[Stihlman441]

The little saw that could.
Ozzy hard wood Swompgum.

[video=youtube;3OGsyG-Kl1Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OGsyG-Kl1Y[/video]

 

[SawTroll]

Na I just reading about things you know little about :taped:

Knowing how the 261 is built (inboard clutch, bad weight distribution, and bulky), and handling it in a shop, was more than enough to dismiss it as hopeless as a true competitor in the 50cc class. It simply isn't anywhere close!

The 241 does of course feel a lot better in the hands, but it also has lot less power....

 

[SawTroll]

Precisely my point, and if a saw that costs under $400 can get the job done just as well as one that costs over $700, then all the better.

Your point isn't hard to understand at all, but what really is "just as well"? I don't agree that a 5100S will get the job done "just as well" as a 346xp, the difference isn't really large when felling or bucking (or blocking) - but much larger when limbing trees with lots of limbs.....

The inboard clutch of the Dolmars no doubt is the main culprit - it changes the balance and feel of the saws quite a lot. This obviously is the case with the MS261 and 241 as well.

If someone doesn't fell, limb etc in the woods - but just are blocking logs in the yard, these differences does of course matter a lot less.