Tiny chipper

[hornett22]

rental companies have to keep stuff up

or they can't rent it out and make money.i would never buy a new chipper 12" or less.why take the hit.there are too many deals out there right now.been using my used 625 for over 2 years commercially.it runs when my buddies big ones won't.it's saved him more than once when his where down.

 

[LNG24]

On that tandem trailer setup idea: I got a ticket from the Ohio State Highway Patrol just for thinking about it The Load Handler works great, get the commercial one for your truck bed, I am considering a Dump-Pro (see Salsco thread) that I can put a plywood box on for chips. What type of dump trailer do you have?

Mine is a 6x10 Tandem Dump with Single Piston (like most dump trucks). I added wooden slat sides, but you can add what ever. Only problem with doing this is not being able to pull a chipper.

I would think you would be much better off (for your industry) to go with a 3/4 or 1 ton. An F-450 or F-550 is best, but most guys I see typically use a F-650 to stay under CDL. I ran an F-750 as I have a CDL.

If for some reason you want to start out small. Get the largest size Pick-up you can, Install a Dump bed like this

and then you can pull your chipper as well. Both Pick Ups and Commercial Dump trucks are readily available used. I would never again buy new! The money you save on used can be put into a maintenance fund earning interest for you and you will be much better off.

 

[Slvrmple72]

LNG , nice pic,nice truck! I just got an 01 F-350 Crew cab with the long bed and 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel ( so far, so good ) Went to Majestic Trailer in Akron to look at Quality Aluminum and Steel Products Tandem Dump Trailers. I think that no matter what I will have to do the chipping and dumping in one trip and come back for the logs with the dump trailer on the next trip. hornett22 where did you buy your 625? I guess I am so hesitant about a used chipper because I dont know what to look for on one that means big bucks down the road due to poor maintenance.

 

[ATH]

ATH what part of Ohio are you in? I live in lovely tree-infested Akron. I am requesting quotes from Salsco on some of their smaller chippers, do you want me to PM them to you when I get them? I am looking at the 4" and 6" capacity chippers with the 25hp Kohler on the first and the 35hp Kubota Diesel on the 6" I have also considered used but I keep thinking how much that word rhymes with abused! I dont think I will be saving money as much as buying a headache. On that tandem trailer setup idea: I got a ticket from the Ohio State Highway Patrol just for thinking about it The Load Handler works great, get the commercial one for your truck bed, I am considering a Dump-Pro (see Salsco thread) that I can put a plywood box on for chips. What type of dump trailer do you have? DR makes one heck of a brush hog but dont waste your time with their chippers, this type of work will destroy it and you will be out a few thousand dollars

I am in Findlay (but I grew up in North Canton...you have many more trees than we do over here!)

Yeah, let me know what you find out. Never hurts to know all of my options.

My trailer is only 6x10 single piston (scissor lift). Hawke by Tow Rite (apparently, the never went to spelling class ) 10,000# payload. Electric brakes.

edit, because I didn't do so well in spelling either )

 

[thepheniox]

This is what I have used for a few years.

 

[STLfirewood]

I have pulled a chipper behind a dump trailer before. I didn't like it. The dump trailer weighed 3300#'s and the chipper 6k#'s It liked to weave. I could haul 17yards of chips in the trailer though. One you got to a big job it was nice. But it was to much weight once it was all loaded. The truck pulled it ok but it was damn heavy. There is an other thread about a bandit setup that looks really nice.

Scott

 

[STLfirewood]

Here is a link someone else posted. This would be a really good setup for me. It would leave my 8x9 flatbed for hauling the wood off a site. I really like this idea because I am small. I just can't justify it when my other chipper is paid for and in really good shape.

http://www.banditchippers.com/index...id=38&limit=10&limitstart=0&search=&orderby=0

Scott

 

[ATH]

I have seen that Bandit set up. It would be ideal. I am surprised they are the only one making one of those.

Do we have any idea of cost?

Value of a "reasonable condition" used one?

 

[reachtreeservi]

Here is a link someone else posted. This would be a really good setup for me. It would leave my 8x9 flatbed for hauling the wood off a site. I really like this idea because I am small. I just can't justify it when my other chipper is paid for and in really good shape.

http://www.banditchippers.com/index...id=38&limit=10&limitstart=0&search=&orderby=0

Scott

That's a sweet set up for a small start up company! I'd like to know what it cost. Anyone got an idea ?

 

[LNG24]

Here is a link someone else posted. This would be a really good setup for me. It would leave my 8x9 flatbed for hauling the wood off a site. I really like this idea because I am small. I just can't justify it when my other chipper is paid for and in really good shape.

http://www.banditchippers.com/index...id=38&limit=10&limitstart=0&search=&orderby=0

Scott

If you already have a chipper bought and paid for, you can pick up a used
10k# GVW dump. Hire a fabricator and weld that sucker onto it. Basically, all you are doing is extending the toung. What I would suggest is to simpley extend the rails on the dump and mount the chipper onto it. I don't see a need to make it swival. Load the chipper from the passenger side. This way you can easily pull up along a driveway and load it while the truck is on the road. Might cost a couple of grand to do, but I am sure it will beat the price of this set up.

 

[STLfirewood]

I could do it myself. I have a couple dump trailers already. My chipper weighs to much to do that. I would want it to swivel. If you on a bigger job the swivel would help because you could fill another truck. If i found a used chipper cheap I would think about making one. But I have other things I want first.

Scott

 

[Slvrmple72]

Too much tongue weight! The info from the Bandit salesman came today. I am gonna look it over. Apart from engine options the only real big difference between the two types of Chipper/Chip box models they offer is a little bit more weight and capacity of the chipper 6" or 9". I have yet to find a used one listed anywhere! ( I would go so far as to wager money that nobody will) I can pm the quote I get for the models I am considering just give me a yell ( yell loud! :censored: noisy saws ) Still waitin on the Salsco rep down in Millersburg.

 

[Mr.Roehler]

I have a bc625 that I came across fairly cheap this past summer at only $1750 and it's in good condition. It's a little under powered at times but I sell fireword a little and burn so anything that won't fit gets cut into firewood. I have a one ton dump truck I use and before that was chipping onto a trail there I had a box built on with a carpet underneath to pull out the chips.

 

[LNG24]

Too much tongue weight!

Never unless your truck can't handle it. Only trouble you have with overloading a trailer is that if you put too much weight in the back it will wiggle big time. Toung weight is only limited by your receiver, hitch, rear axle cap and GVW of the truck.

 

[sticknstring]

Too much tongue weight! The info from the Bandit salesman came today. I am gonna look it over. Apart from engine options the only real big difference between the two types of Chipper/Chip box models they offer is a little bit more weight and capacity of the chipper 6" or 9". I have yet to find a used one listed anywhere! ( I would go so far as to wager money that nobody will) I can pm the quote I get for the models I am considering just give me a yell ( yell loud! :censored: noisy saws ) Still waitin on the Salsco rep down in Millersburg.

I bought a used one about 5 years ago. At that time it was the only used one for sale at any Bandit dealers in the country. Bandit say's they don't make a whole lot of them. Kind of surprising, I love mine, and think they are perfect for small companies, or bigger companies looking for a cheap way to add another crew.

 

[STLfirewood]

Stick where are you at in Missouri?

Scott

 

[Slvrmple72]

I bought a used one about 5 years ago. At that time it was the only used one for sale at any Bandit dealers in the country. Bandit say's they don't make a whole lot of them. Kind of surprising, I love mine, and think they are perfect for small companies, or bigger companies looking for a cheap way to add another crew.

Sticknstring, did you get the 6" or 9"? Glad to hear someone bought one used, must be that the few sold new are worth their weight in gold. What do you pull yours with?

 

[Slvrmple72]

Never unless your truck can't handle it. Only trouble you have with overloading a trailer is that if you put too much weight in the back it will wiggle big time. Toung weight is only limited by your receiver, hitch, rear axle cap and GVW of the truck.

LNG, what you are saying is correct ,but I also thought you want to keep trailer vehicle hitch weight around 10-15% of your trailer's gross weight? If too much of the weight of your chipper is on the tongue and not supported by the trailer axles you will have problems with steering/control. As posted earlier I will need to keep that weight on the rear axle of my truck under one ton. Bandit claims their chipper/chipbox combo can be pulled by a one ton truck. Most tiny chippers (6" capacity) start around the one ton range and get heavier from there so I do not think it would be practical for me to mod a dump trailer the way your proposing... unless I get a bigger truck

 

[LNG24]

Slvrmpre72

Your are kind of correct with tong weight.

Here is a Great Link: Trailer Loading and Towing Guide


RECOMMENDED HITCH WEIGHT PERCENTAGES

TYPE OF TRAILER
PERCENT OF WT. ON TONGUE

Single Axle
10% minimum/15% maximum

Tandem Axle
9% to 15%

Travel Trailer
11% to 12%

5th Wheel
15% to 25%

However, any time you add to the tong, you want to relocate the axles. Another way to accomplish this and now that I am thinking of it, Might be easier to extend the back rails and move the (relatively light weight) dump box back behind the axles and mount the chipper just in front of the axles.

I do agree, you should be towing with at least a 3/4 ton truck WITH towing package. I tow a dump trailer with my 1/2 ton Yukon, but I utilize a weight distribution hitch.

If you want it to pivot, that is a quite simple set up. Two matching round steel plates with a groove just inside the perimeter on both upper and lower plates. Holes drilled in the bottom plate and one hole in the top plat will provide a locking system. Fill the groove with bearings, Bolt plates together in the center and mount chipper onto that.

 

[OLD CHIPMONK]

The only reason for posting about the small 6in. Gravely chipper was convienience. We could trim for a couple hours & reduce the debris to about 4-6 32 gal. waste buckets. A lot better than a full pick-up load. Plus we used the chips in our flower beds & gave a lot to our neighbors. The chips produced were tiny as oppossed to those made by our larger Morbark chipper. We still wish we had kept that tiny chipper.