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Have any of you guys seen, or tried toe gaffs that are used by the guys in the ESPN outdoor games? I would be interested to find out what they feel like. I doubt that they could be used for day to day work... but it has me curious.
 
Yes

Rob Waibel, asked meet to compete years ago. At that time he had just began using a pair. Originally developed by Guy German.

The gaff is curled upwards, thus takes a different leg thrust to the tree. Great for competition climbing.

But from my observations not as practical for working stress acquired in length of time standing in them. (I might have to ask Rob if he has spent 8 hours in a tree with them).

Note when your descending with conventional spurs risk of injury increases.

To date I have not tried them myself, further I am not climbing much anymore. If I did, I might have to enter the Master's sticktuitive race. - I'll get there as soon as I can!!

Do you do a lot of Removals? The cost as I remember was excessive for these 11 years ago.
 
I do a good amount of removals, but I was just curious because I was watching ESPN one day and they were saying about how the new craze in the pole competition is the toe gaffs. Just wondering how much use they are seeing.
 
To my knowledge only a few Timbersport climbers are using conventionals. Most of the competitors have gone to toe gaffs.

The main advantage is the freedom of ankle movement and pushing from your instep, which is more like running.
 
A few folks have asked me if I climb "like the guys on ESPN" when they here I'm a tree man.

My reply. . .

Wish I could.:p

Those guys are amazing/crazy!!!!:eek:

-Mike-
 
Crampons

I know a guy near baraboo who climbs with ice-climbing crampons on! He says it's much faster than spikes!

love
nick
 
nick,
that one i could not understand????? the guy must have calves the size of my thigh's, since he would have to front point up a tree. plus he would have no balance if only belted in. i own 3 pairs of crampons and would never waiste my time trying them for tree work.

have you ever seen him climb with them? what is his reputation as a climber?
 
Front points and mixed climbing

A few winters ago I was on my way home from a day of thrashing ice at the Brickyards in St. Paul. My drive home took me past a large, dead, debarked elm. Hmmm, I have my gear and tools, I wonder how they work in trees? I stopped and put my boots and Fangs on, grabbed my tools and started up the tree. It had a little lean so that made it easier. Actually it was a lot like climbing soft, thin ice. It took a little while to get the feel for how hard to set my tools.

The next summer I decided to try out the same technique on a cottonwood removal. It was fun for playing around but not practical as a tree climbing procedure. I could see using front points to ascend a removal with some one belaying. I found it much easier than using gaffs. Once I was in the tree, the bottom points got in the way. I think that for lateral movement in trees, a combination of the standard spike with front points for vertical movement has merit.

We had a bad ice storm a while ago and I used my crampons for doing removal work. This was the best way! It was almost like having suction cups on my feet. I remember a large elm limb that had split and was laying on the house. After tieing into the main lead up high, I could practice an arborist version of French Technique.
 
Are those your boots? I think that I'm going to pick up a pair of old crampons and mount them onto some old tree climbing boots that I just put in the trash.

I have an old pair of Lowe Foot Fangs that I'm not really interested in cutting apart. I could see the potential for using front points some times during a removal.

Tom
 

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