This thread seems to get brought up quite a bit. Every time I come across it I read it through. Joe is a good guy, bad to the bone and from the old school. Wish he would come back and post some but I have no idea how to get ahold of him and make him aware of his infamy. I met him about 2 years after this incident when he took down a monster white pine in a cemetery for my old boss. His face is scarred up but he doesn't look much worse than the majority of salty tree guys I've met. Last I knew his business was still trucking along and he was no longer climbing for his old, very shady boss. I wish him the best of luck and hope to meet him again someday.