parrisw
Tree Freak
found it, it looks very automated and comes with instructions to build a cart as a first project. I like that you just set the metal thickness and select the type and it does the setup for you. The 180 seems to have more bells and whistles, but is basically the same as the 165. I think i found a decent price at cyberweld which i could have shipped to Nik's. I will likely get the foot pedal too, and it will still be a lot less than the 185 which has a digital display and plug that lets you change to 12o v if needed (i don't). I think I might see if praxair or a local welding shop can match or nearly match. I think my wife will likely throw a hissy fit no matter how much I spend so I might as well make it worth my while :chatter:.
Now your talking! I'd go with the 180 if ya can swing it, much better, you definitely want foot control. KMS tools has some good prices for them, see if you have one nearby. I bought a Lincoln Square Wave Precision TIG 185, and its sweet! Its got some nice features too!