Trainee climber falls

[darkstar]

from all the snap links if seen and have not used ... the biners are generally much lighter ...

 

[kf_tree]

from all the snap links if seen and have not used ... the biners are generally much lighter ...

you have never used rope snap's? how long have you been climbing?

 

[R Schra]

You can here if they're on your lanyard.

Here's a pic of the back up idea.

So you feel save with an selfclosing NOT locking biner as back-up?

 

[Lumberjack]

I have used 1 snap that came on a wire core I used to use. Its all biners for me.

 

[Ekka]

So you feel save with an selfclosing NOT locking biner as back-up?

Put what ever carabiner you prefer, personally I don't run a back up system but that's what they were enforcing us to do at Qld arborcamp. As it's not the primary locking device and only there for backup we could get away with this, the idea being it should never have to be used.

 

[tophopper]

I dont understand how that is a backup?

 

[okietreedude1]

from all the snap links if seen and have not used ... the biners are generally much lighter ...

Apparently you dont have one of my aluminum snaps.

The fp8002

http://okarboristsupply.com/climbing_aids.htm

Super light and rated higher than the steel.

 

[clearance]

Steelcore flipline, mechanical cam type slack adjuster at one end and a double locking rope snap at the other end, good spurs. Safest, surest way to climb. Tautline to rappel from the t.i.p. you can look directly at. Never can fall unless you do something very wrong.

 

[Ekka]

I dont understand how that is a backup?

If the double locking guy comes off/out then the prussik's gotcha.

 

[jason j ladue]

i still say hurrying is the most common cause of injury. it is so easy to lose focus and not realize. always double check. then check again before making any move. this profession is far too unforgiving of any error to not take your time.

 

[darkstar]

unless im mistaken it doesent show the weight and the dmm locking aluminum biner is 45 kl. thats almost twice the strength ... not that you really need that much xrta strength ... oh and yeah i used the snap links once or twice but i prefer the locking biners plus i get them for free ... and 20 years climbing trees ... ive been around the block ...alot of climbers around here use biners now .... dark

 

[tophopper]

If the double locking guy comes off/out then the prussik's gotcha.

So.... evertime you use the lanyard you have to unclip both and reclip them both to the opposing dee? Sounds like like a pain. Why not just use 2 lanyards then?

 

[Jim1NZ]

So.... evertime you use the lanyard you have to unclip both and reclip them both to the opposing dee? Sounds like like a pain. Why not just use 2 lanyards then?

Na mate, thats the adjusting side on Ekka's set up, never to be undone unless the lot is to be taken off. You cant see the other clip which will be on the other end of his flip line.

In NZ, no one that i have seen uses the snap lock clips in competition, maby the rules are different overseas?

 

[darkstar]

having climbed in 7 countries and at least 10 states im more used to seeing locking biners in action ... but i do see plenty of super hard core climbers using the old snap locks ... personally i think light is right .... i hated the spin ball petzl locking biners ... com oon how u gonna use that with a glove .. i dont use gloves but .... anyhow the late jeff lowe used them alot mountain climbing and ice climbing so i figured they must be pretty good ....now i love them ..very fast ..... green = go no green no go .... everybody has their own preferance ....im used to the grillion ... well home made styl;e ...anyhow since i read here ive been using a schwabisch and a micro pulley ....very smooth .... but i doubt ill take it up for good .... havent tried the art yet ...hmmm wish i could borrow one first .... 200 us ...ouch oh well
hope the trainee is healing up fast ..... and no doubt will be x tra safe from now on .....i got a chain saw cut really bad in my second year .... hmmm ive been as safe as possible since .... i dunno ' never hurry ' ....yeah rt.

 

[Jim1NZ]

hey dark, just cut the finger tips off the gloves and you can use the ball lock no sweat, wouldn't be too keen to do so if its freezing cold though

 

[darkstar]

shoot i never use gloves anyhow ...hey never climbed in new zealand must be a blast ... spent a year working the bluies though... my boss tried to kill the yank ...i got hired first day there ..he said any climber who would bring all that stuff all the way to oz must be ok ... 300 ozie a day i loved it ...but the rego ...ouch

 

[Jim1NZ]

Na me neither, NZ is great, some big trees and heaps of different species, everything seems to grow here! Wouldn't mind cruzing over to the USA for a look a