Tru-fuel question.

[Sidecarflip]

Not applicable for me. I don't consume that much so canned fuel works just fine here. My ongoing issue with pump gas here is, non e-gas is hard to obtain here and what is, is very expensive. The closest no e-gas outlet is 30 miles from here and corn squeezed gas tends to suffer from phase separation when stored anyway. I've cleaned more than one gunked up carb in the past and I don't enjoy it.

E-gas is fine for my buggy but not my seldom used chainsaws. My arborist customers use it but they go through a lot of corn gas daily. I don't.

One nice thing about using corn gas in the buggies is, don't have to add 'heet' to prevent fuel line freezing as the alcohol is already in it.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

I've read years back of truefuel being returned to box stores that had been dumped and filled with water with coloring. That could be some folks issues.

I'm going to open a gal of my truefuel ER hidden on a back shelf and dump and put in a saw and see what happens.

I am thinking couple years old by date. I will check.

Prob try it in the echo 501 first.

I busted open a gal of my ER mix today to test and see for myself.

I will say. The 1% bad feedback on turfuel has to be ones that bought cans that was filled with water and coloring etc and returned to box stores or just your typical clueless owners I even see here.

Idle was same, max rpm the same, in the cuts the same. No difference starting and restarting.

I run Efree 89 with VPracing oil 40:1.

The Truefuel is 40:1 from 2022.

Trufuel is 74% alkylate and 40:1 for my choice. I paid like 6 a gallon at Lowes when selling it off.

I seen no difference in starting, idling, max rpm or in the cuts.

 

[SS396driver]

I’m still using the Trufuel I bought when Lowe’s had it on clearance last February. Think with the case discount the manager gave me it was right about $5 for the 110 once can . None that I’ve opened had a safety seal under the cap

 

[Sidecarflip]

What I like about canned fuel is... I can drain the corn gas from my small power equipment (and put it in the buggies) and replace it with canned gas, run the canned gas in them for a few minutes and put them away for winter in the unheated barn and they start right up in the spring with no issues. Been doing that for years now and a 4 stroke could care less if the fuel has oil in it or not.

 

[SS396driver]

Non E fuel here is 4.19 a gallon it 91 octane . I used that in the mowers and log splitter . I also run it exclusively in the old cars and trucks . Newer vehicles get 87 E10

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

My 89 Efree still hanging tough at 4.49. Then mixed 40:1 with Vpracing I figure hair over 5 something a gal.

Never a problem and I am always mixing 5gal at a time.

No way could I afford to run can stuff using 5gal all the time.

Plus my boat only get Efree too.

I put a tank in efree from pump in my pressure washer this month to start and run jetter in my main septic line too. Things I need during ER times only get stored with efree.

 

[ballisticdoughnut]

This is what the new motomix cans look like in case anyone is interested. Believe the moto4 cans will be the same as well at some point. I don’t run the Stihl mix myself but we do use it at the shop to insure there are no fuel related issues when customers pick up their equipment.

 

[Chevboy0167]

My local farm store, Theisen's, had carried Aspen fuels 2 yrs ago. I always wanted to try some to try to see any difference compared to other engineered fuels available to me.

But I was a bit leery cuz they were plastic containers that were puffed up from heat expansion on the trailer ride to the store. I really couldn't believe they set them out on the shelves like that.

Plus, the price was even more than Trufuel and others. Heck... even more than Motomix!

 

[Mad Professor]

This is what the new motomix cans look like in case anyone is interested. Believe the moto4 cans will be the same as well at some point. I don’t run the Stihl mix myself but we do use it at the shop to insure there are no fuel related issues when customers pick up their equipment.
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Nice they have a built in screen. But why would you need that with fresh canned fuel? Would be a PITA if you wanted to reuse and fill the cans.

I don't like the plastic spouts. Coleman fuel cans have metal spouts.

 

[dwaugh]

Nice they have a built in screen. But why would you need that with fresh canned fuel? Would be a PITA if you wanted to reuse and fill the cans.

I don't like the plastic spouts. Coleman fuel cans have metal spouts.

I wonder in the metal screens support the foil seal when under a small vacuum from pressure change during shipping. Just guessing, can't think of another reason.

 

[nedsim]

I wonder in the metal screens support the foil seal when under a small vacuum from pressure change during shipping. Just guessing, can't think of another reason.

Flame arrestor screen?

https://www.researchgate.net/figure...ently-available-commercial-can_fig3_225459334

 

[Philbert]

They are intended as ‘single use containers’ (lawyers and all). A ‘reusable’ fuel container would like have to meet the same standards as red fuel cans.

I like that seal in @ballisticdoughnut ‘s photo. It gives me a lot of confidence that it has not been tampered with.

For Trufuel, I would probably accept some kind of plastic or foil tamper-evident seal, like they use on salad dressing, ketchup, lemon juice, or other, common products.

Philbert

 

[dwaugh]

It really makes me wonder if they have been returned by some unscrupulous person that used the fuel and returned the cans with straight gas.

Not a valid test, but I was curious about testing for the presence of oil in gas outside of a lab test. Some searching suggesting dumping gas on some paper. I figured that was worth a try, I only had canned oil mix and Coleman camp fuel.

Photos below are for demonstration of what I did and not a suggestion results are valid.
Below, top row above is one drop MotoMix 50:1 (left) placed on pencil dot, (middle) Husky mix 50:1 on drop, (left, despite label, nothing deposited). Middle row, is the same as top but with maybe 10 drops each added to the paper.
Bottom row is one drop Stihl Oil.


Photo below is the same as above just with lighting from the back.


Not a surprise the oil would leave marks on the paper as it would not evaporate and the index of refraction would be closer to the wood fiber making it translucent. I will try to test some straight gas when I get a chance, but it does seem like splashing some fuel on a sheet of paper and letting it evaporate could give an indication of presence/absence of oil.

 

[Bill G]

Non E fuel here is 4.19 a gallon it 91 octane . I used that in the mowers and log splitter . I also run it exclusively in the old cars and trucks . Newer vehicles get 87 E10

You are getting ripped off. Here in "corn country" it is cheaper

 

[Bill G]

My local farm store, Theisen's, had carried Aspen fuels 2 yrs ago. I always wanted to try some to try to see any difference compared to other engineered fuels available to me.

But I was a bit leery cuz they were plastic containers that were puffed up from heat expansion on the trailer ride to the store. I really couldn't believe they set them out on the shelves like that.

Plus, the price was even more than Trufuel and others. Heck... even more than Motomix!

At least Theisen's gives you free popcorn...........myself I prefer peanuts

 

[Bill G]

It is not tough to put a seal on a can/bottle.

Sealed...............

 

[Bill G]

Not sealed...........