Truck shopping C4500-C5500 questions

[LAH]

Moss Man, I'm an International fan myself but I have used the Chevy/GMC, 70/7000 trucks in the 80's for hauling diesel fuel. They worked just fine with the 3208 Cat engines.

 

[Moss Man]

Moss Man, I'm an International fan myself but I have used the Chevy/GMC, 70/7000 trucks in the 80's for hauling diesel fuel. They worked just fine with the 3208 Cat engines.

I had an 1968 International 1600 series a few years back with a 4-5 yard dump on it, I hauled a lot of gravel and that 345 never sputtered once.

Good to know about the 3208 Cat, I thought most of those old gm's had the Detriot diesels in them.

You talkin newer Internationals? I'd be interested, as I hope to upgrade the firewood hauler at some point. A firewood dealer down the road just jumped to a good sized International from a one ton Chevy, maybe I sould talk to him also. If I get a chance I'll snap a shot of the International he bought and post it up here.

 

[LAH]

The 1600 International is a great size truck for hauling wood & logs small time. At present I don't need a truck so large. The 4900 International trucks are for sale every where you look. Their 466 engine is about as good as they come. Our 1992 used a 210 HP while the 1993 was 245 HP. Both trucks are still running, working every day hauling fuel oil in the hills of WV supplying gas drilling rigs. These trucks had no problems except the Spicer rear ends wouldn't hold up to the spinning in mud. I replaced both rear ends with 23,000 pound Eaton units. Problem solved. Here's a nice little flatbed dump I've had my eye on: http://www.jweinc.com/gallery/vehiclelistings.asp?page_size=1&current_page=7&categoryID_list=24_44

 

[Rookie1]

I dont like the gas engine fuel tank setup. Dual tanks and engine draws off of front tank and some sort of pump transfers fuel to front tank. I also dont like the way the mirrors attach to the cab,big stupid bracket. And probably no different then any other truck but lots of cheap plastic. The diesel engine had fuel rail problems too.

 

[STLfirewood]

That's a good looking truck. I would buy one if I could find one in good shape close. I'm mainly wanting a 4500 because I want to be able to carry 4 cord of wood without stacking. Right now I ca only carry 2 2/3 cord. I can deliver more in a day if I could carry it. I also want to use the truck as a chip truck when I do tree work. It would also be used as a plow truck in the winter. That's why I don't want anything to bulky. I have also thought about the F-600 and up. That cummins 12v is hard to beat.

Scott

 

[John D]

That's a good looking truck. I would buy one if I could find one in good shape close. I'm mainly wanting a 4500 because I want to be able to carry 4 cord of wood without stacking. Right now I ca only carry 2 2/3 cord. I can deliver more in a day if I could carry it. I also want to use the truck as a chip truck when I do tree work. It would also be used as a plow truck in the winter. That's why I don't want anything to bulky. I have also thought about the F-600 and up. That cummins 12v is hard to beat.


Scott

Im not trying to be a wise guy,but isn't 4 cord of wood a lot for a 4500? I dont know for sure,but when i load 2 cord in my 7x 14 14K dump trailer,it seems to be right around 9500-10000lbs of wood,and thats if its dried ,if its green oak or locust,its even heavier. I'm pretty sure a 4500 can only carry right around 7000-8000lbs legally at the most,provided you have a 2wd,and a light body.My figures are using my buddies 4500 which is set up as follow,it is taring between 11,000 and 12,000 in most cases,and a GVWR of 17500.

 

[STLfirewood]

Sorry I forgot to mention I would be caring some on a trailer also. Right now I usually carry 2 cord on my 14x7 dump trailer ad 2/3 of a cord on my truck. I would like to put 2 cord on the truck and 2 on the trailer. That still might be to heavy though. Maybe I need another trailer that is a little bigger.

Scott

 

[mini14]

1 thing to watch out for on those old trucks is the single pistion master cylinder, if u have a leak anywhere in the systems u have 0 brakes front and back....i had a 66 c60 for 5 years

 

[LAH]

1 thing to watch out for on those old trucks is the single pistion master cylinder, if u have a leak anywhere in the systems u have 0 brakes front and back....i had a 66 c60 for 5 years

+1..............Had a couple interesting days because of this.

 

[Moss Man]

+10,000gvw truck requires DOT# ,DOT medical card , DOT safety equipment & commercial insurance .
If outside state need Apportioned plates , logbook and IFTA fuel sticker .

If you haul a trailer over 10,000 gvw you'll need a CDL .

The cutoff here for class B is 26,000, anything under that and a regular license covers you.

 

[Tree Trimmer]

Fwiw

Here's a nice little flatbed dump I've had my eye on:

They've owned that truck for 3 years. Unless they've spent major $ on it stay away. For just a little more money a buddy of mine bought a retired '03 IH DT466E cab&chassis ryder truck in Raleigh (NC) that has been a work horse!!

TT

 

[LAH]

Thanks Tree Trimmer.