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Two-Stroke Oils: All the Same?
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sand sock
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i like stihl 2 mix oil, never had a problem yet. i like the orange bottle, so i can find it on my shelf in the shop. i've even used husky brand.. i always short that last little bit of gas out of the pump. 1/10th of a gallon. 2.5 gal mix, makes 2.499 gals. then i always shake the gas can, making sure it is mixed. most important thing is it causes cancer in california. i dont know how it gets from ohio to cali, but trust the label. 50:1
mojo jojo
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I am pretty sure, that not one chainsaw manufacturer produce 2-stroke oil or develope it.
As long as it`s not counterfit and original packed it`s all good(enough).
As long as it`s not counterfit and original packed it`s all good(enough).
sand sock
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castrol makes stihl
There was a test someone on another forum did on different 2-stroke oils and their qualities. From what I've heard, Echo Red Armor and Amsoil Dominator came out on top of the rest.
Echo Red Armor is one of the best. Anything JASO FD certified is going to be good. Amsoil Dominator is possibly the best option, but there was some reason I decided not to settle on it.
Ah, I think I remember...
Amsoil Dominator doesn't have a fuel stabilizer. Not too big of a deal, but having a stabilizer is nice.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. The conversation was a while ago.
Echo Red Armor is one of the best. Anything JASO FD certified is going to be good. Amsoil Dominator is possibly the best option, but there was some reason I decided not to settle on it.
Ah, I think I remember...
Amsoil Dominator doesn't have a fuel stabilizer. Not too big of a deal, but having a stabilizer is nice.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. The conversation was a while ago.
There was also that thing with them refusing to warranty engines that ran their 100 to 1 ratio and blew up a few years ago.
echomeister
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Keep calm and ( red armour 40:1 ) on......
Not in the US
I would lean away from Stihl Ultra. From what I've seen, it leaves too many deposits/doesn't burn as clean.
Coming from someone who bought a gallon of the stuff before I learned. I'll be using that gallon for a while until I can switch to Red Armor.
Coming from someone who bought a gallon of the stuff before I learned. I'll be using that gallon for a while until I can switch to Red Armor.
Use it to start fires... College is expensive. That oil was a cheap lesson.I would lean away from Stihl Ultra. From what I've seen, it leaves too many deposits/doesn't burn as clean.
Coming from someone who bought a gallon of the stuff before I learned. I'll be using that gallon for a while until I can switch to Red Armor.
More important than which oil you choose, is learning to tune your saw properly. Plenty more saws are killed by a bad tune, than are killed by running the wrong two stroke oil. Lots of videos on YT.
I hear you. I figure it won't do too much damage to my saws, especially since it is spread across 5 saws.
I'm tempted to try to sell it, though.
I gave the 6 pack I got with the 400 away to a guy I work with. He thought i was daft when I said I bought it for the extended warranty and had no intentions of using it. He even tried to pay me for it. I'm sure someone will see the shiny silver bottle at a yard sale and get their wallet out.
I dumped the out the Stihl Ultra the dealer filled my 500i with when I got home. Didn't even run that one tank.
I suffered through it. Paid a lot for that gas, the saw just came with it.
I dumped mine in the truck. Wasn't going to waste it either!
freeasaburt
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Not to add 'fuel to the fire', but what is wrong with Stihl HP ULtra? Have been running it for years 1:50 or a bit richer, mainly in my 2 026's. Seems to burn quite cleanly...
If I'm not mistaken, it's also the oil they use in their 'Motomix' 2-stroke alkylate fuel.
If I'm not mistaken, it's also the oil they use in their 'Motomix' 2-stroke alkylate fuel.
I know it smokes a lot in my saws, especially in my trimmer.
I don't really think any name brand oil is going to destroy a saw in any reasonable amount of time. It's more about the small amounts of wear and tear over years of use that accumulate to the loss of a saw earlier than if you used a higher quality oil.
Tomos770
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No!
2stroke oils are usually in sae30 or sae40 viscosity.....sae40 is as high as you can get away with an oil injection system....
Anything higher then sae40 is pre-Mix only!
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