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Originally posted by RockyJSquirrel
WTF are you talking about? It looks like English, but does not convey any intelligible thought whatsoever. Your ability to type so many words and communicate so little is frustrating at best. :(

thats one way to put it,spidy run a half tonne limb thru a dead fork half inch, round turn same diameter higher horizontal limb if you can condese that you are half way to any tree removal
 
As i play with this, i think i further see this effect, from the 'arched input'
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Ken I know exactly what your talking about. Is has been my primary way of rigging. There are slight variations as to rope placement and size of notch. This sort of rigging is very graceful whent the ground crew is trained on how to work with you. It is low impact, slow reacting and IMO safer than some other practices.


Keep in mind though with large pieces the amount force exerted before tear off can be more than the total weight of the limb if the ground man isn't in sync with the motion of the limb at the end of stretch.
 
Originally posted by RockyJSquirrel
WTF are you talking about? It looks like English, but does not convey any intelligible thought whatsoever. Your ability to type so many words and communicate so little is frustrating at best. :(


Hahahaaa!!! A classic Brian post!!!!

I sure don't miss that! :rolleyes:
 
BigJ; glad to hear it; some of Roachy's comments privately about same lacing over top for SRT bending top more than just tied to top, talking with Daniel last night about it all. Seems like you guys are right on dis'stuff! You are right about the forces, but then, we have lower impacts, so better tradeoff?

To me, this works like the to side pull of a steeper angle support line, but without the loss of so much of the overhead support that you usually give up in trade! Ushering the best of both worlds!

Daniel asked how much i use it. i submit, that once shown to be a powerful variable, anything should be accepted as part of the formulae for rigging any limb! So, even if i don't bend the line as shown; the principle is still present, but the factor just dialed down to zer0 on that particular rig. Lacing inadvertantly to twist the wrong way/away from target, would even give this setting of this factor, a negative value to the rig; being below zer0!

i am so comfy with it; when i don't use it; i realize the concious decision to set this factor to zer0. i think it is a possible multiplier in the equation of support and steering, that many don't tap. i go at it with the confidence, that aobut anything is possible to float, by taking the equal and opposite reaction to it's force, and turning and/or leveraging it agianst the load itself. As in some kind of martial arts, or art of arguement precept; that anything can be broken, by pitting it against itself etc.
 
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Originally posted by RockyJSquirrel
I am not comfortable having roped limbs going up over my head, considering the average intelligence level of the typical brush pilot on the other end of the rope.

Man, y'all must work with some stupid groundies. IMO if you're fearing for your safety with the person running the rope, or rigging it out yourself, you need get someone new, and train 'em right.

A groundman who can handle everything on the ground, without having to be told what to do every 5 mins is worth ???? near as much as a good climber.
 
Good ground men are just as hard to find as climbers. Even the best groundman needs to adapt to variances in climbers rigging. Every climber is different some care and some dont.
 
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