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I'm having trouble here, how do you do this without pinching the bar???:confused:

Hump, Burv, JoeS, etc., thanks, I got it after a few explanations......

056, careful, cause I was reprimanded for suggesting that us fallers ever "play" out in the woods, working on technique. My thought of course, lot of fun they'd be to cut with..... after, if you sped up a bit yourself you'd have time to play too

To not pinch the bar, just feel it, don't cut too fast....
 
I think so.

Maybe it is just me or different terminollogy in different areas but a dutchmen is different then a swing cut. Walking a tree is just working a swing cut to me. To me a dutchmen refers more to a block of wood in the undercut or an uneven undercut to change the direction of fall after the undercut starts to close. It happens all at once whereas a swing cut you can bring it around little by little. When you're swinging a tree you are basically cutting off the lower side of the tree. The wedge keeps the tree from setting down on the back side but when it sets down it has to set down on the lower side of the undercut and changes the lean. you keep cutting out the lower side of the face, wedging and it keeps setting down and changing the lean untill the weight gets to be to much for the holding wood or you trip it.I've seen trees fell directly against their lean with this but yea, you need room for the top to move and some good holding wood.

. I prolly should have read the whole thread before replying but time is short ...gotta beat the heat , my road melts .. too many lows that are warm , need more 30 below ... Anyway . When Cody said a dutchman , I figured yup , then Hump elaborated on a more technical kerf dutchman with a wedge assist . then Bur added to that .................. YUP . thats how you walk a tree around another tree ...I taught Gary Soderberg how to do that in 85 ..Hook tender , Rowan Bay ,Kuiu Is. stuff in the way of the lift trees .. You can really get with the program if you put in a good holding wood side siswheel ... . And sometimes can walk some trees around one , one way then have a block , or wedge on the high side side of the face and it will check the swing and give you a sec more to cut your holding wood ...... 2 direction changes is all I,ve ever been able to get out of a tree tho ...... I go back into the kerf dutchman often and keep opening it up to get the tree to keep setteling down and into the face , but you need to have your saw wound up and just wack it in and bounce it out real quick or your going to get sat on .... ... For those that try this and get hung , take your power head off the bar and chain . go up the tree 3 or 4 feet , reface and fall the tree .. .. If you don,t go up the tree far enough , the stump will often times split and chunk out and there goes your bar and chain .... Like that bent bar Slowp had a pic of last week .. Prolly how it happened ...
 
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You need a saw that will cut faster than the top moves!
You can feel when the chain starts to drag you better be getting it out of the way.

I think it is something where you will want to depend on the wedge as much as the saw. Saw in until you think far enough and try the wedge. A couple of whacks and if it doesn't move then you are back to a tickle from the undercut side.
Good judgemet with this goes a long way and you don't get that without practise. I expect that anyone that uses this has had a few hangups until they caught on.
 

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