Wedge Belt

[RandyMac]

Bitz!
That gas bag was self inflating and still in use at HSU, they call it a professor now.

 

[madhatte]

We used what would be known as a Sillett, a gas filled bag that you stepped on, it shot a load of crap exactly 40 feet.

I see what you did there!

 

[bitzer]

Pnw humor.

 

[Woos31]

Nothin specially engineered just an average belt and pouch, also carry my ax stuffed through the belt between my good side and the pouch, tape clipped on a belt loop of my britches

 

[treeslayer2003]

He had a stick 4' long marked out like a yard stick. Back in the day it is what they used, new fangled is a steel tape.

back when we cut up all the grade, we used a stick. 4'2" so three sticks would mark a 12'6" log.

 

[1270d]

back when we cut up all the grade, we used a stick. 4'2" so three sticks would mark a 12'6" log.

I had used a stick as well, as did almost everyone piece cutting in this area. Stick cut 8'8" with a 2' mark for log intervals. Lots easier to flip a skinny little stick around in thick brush than to try taping.

 

[bitzer]

I tried the stick thing in the beginning. Any time the saw is out of your hands its not making you money. The time it takes me to walk to the end of the stem is how quickly i have my randoms figured out. I have all the scenarios memorized. Like 2 10s and a 8 is 29' 8". Three twelves. - 37' 6". A ten and two eights 28'2" and so on. You're always lookin for the stick too.

 

[northmanlogging]

I'd like to see some folks whipping a 36' stick around in the brush out here.

Not to mention the lengths are all over the map.

 

[chucker]

I tried the stick thing in the beginning. Any time the saw is out of your hands its not making you money. The time it takes me to walk to the end of the stem is how quickly i have my randoms figured out. I have all the scenarios memorized. Like 2 10s and a 8 is 29' 8". Three twelves. - 37' 6". A ten and two eights 28'2" and so on. You're always lookin for the stick too.

that's what my old girlfriend said also, she was real good at handling the stick . always having it in her hand made life fun and easier!! lol (take it anyway you want)?????

 

[1270d]

Never had much trouble losing the stick. Occasionally break, or cut one off though. Our woods tend to be a lot more brushy than what you lost pictures of Bitz. Timber is smaller and more crooked. Log lengths rarely over 10 (10 preferred). And usually only a couple of those per stem. Lots and lots of pulp. So much in fact that a guy hand cutting can hardly scrape by.

The stick is never out of your hands unless you're making the falling cuts. Funny how different our methods can be only a few hours apart.

 

[madhatte]

I can see a stick being handy in hardwoods with a complex crown, but never in a softwood. Stab the nail in and walk the log. Too easy.

 

[treeslayer2003]

a stick worked well on the landing measuring only the butt log off hard wood back when i only had a couple of grades. now my buyer has a dozen or more grades just on oak, so i haul the whole tree or 42' if they long or heavy.
pine over size or long cut off at 52' so now a tape works better.

 

[bitzer]

Never had much trouble losing the stick. Occasionally break, or cut one off though. Our woods tend to be a lot more brushy than what you lost pictures of Bitz. Timber is smaller and more crooked. Log lengths rarely over 10 (10 preferred). And usually only a couple of those per stem. Lots and lots of pulp. So much in fact that a guy hand cutting can hardly scrape by.

The stick is never out of your hands unless you're making the falling cuts. Funny how different our methods can be only a few hours apart.

Ive met guys that swear by the stick. They said fumbling around with the tape takes too long. It did take me a while to figure out how to run them efficiently. Not gettin tangled up or breakin em or whatever. Remembering all the number combos. Now i don't even think about it. Theres wood i cut you have to literally mow a path from tree to tree. I'll dig some pics up one of these days. I guess the stick wasn't for me. My saw is 4' 2" long. So i can scribe the pulp sticks with that. At an SFI clas a few years ago i met a 72 year old guy still pole skidn in the tomahawk area. If you've ever been there its mostly pulp too. Not sure how a guy could survive like that. Been doin it all his life i suppose.

 

[Westboastfaller]

I lost two tapes within days of each other. That was enough to put that second snap on there. With two tapes you have one on each hip. Much faster. You can work the tree from whatever side you're on, no gettin tangled up, and you can measure back from the top if you need to. Say i tape into the butt and i find some rot in the middle i can tape in from the top and figure out my best bucking order. On occaision i will tape two stems at once if laid out properly. It took me a while to get used go it, but going to which ever tape i need is natural now. I walk my stems when measuring and sometimes its better to have the tape spooling off one hip than the other.

I like this guy, A Thinker, bean counter, math guy.^^^^ If there is a faster way you will figure it out quick. You said you could about tell us have many pulls you could get of a starter cord? or saw? (Sometimes to that effect) I don't doubt you one bit.

SOOOO do you sometimes run two saws as well..lol
My last Falling job for merch Timber was Mechanical logging and not something I do very often. The hoe was sorting and stripping behind me. Then they blast and build. They didn't care about the wood passing, he was an idiot, and just wanted it out of there. So there was times I measured back when the nail came out and I had it limbed out almost. I would just take a step back and reset the tape and limb out the difference making sure I had an extra few feet. If I'm in a position to measure two at that time I would measure the difference at the tops say. Perhaps taking the second tree to a minimum top if it looks close them limbing it back measing both with one tape bouncing to the other log to make a buck or measure the different depending on the stagger. If it didn't make a 41 then I eyeballed and bucked to fit in a 20' container. The contractor was trying to get me to give up an alternative length but a said it doesn't work to way, You tell me and I'll use it. ha ha. It obviously depends on which mill. Some use a 9.2 metre and some don't. Normally I'll go 4' and buck and see if the butt cleans up, or walk it borring in until its solid. Sometimes like for cedar you may find a chunk in the middle that has no less than 15" of meat that didn't smash so you could use a short alternative length 3.8 metres ( 12'8" )that may not be on the bucking card but they will fly it.

For me my tape is on the right hip.
Orthodox stance is like an orthodox figher putting your left hand forward and your right hip back. Better organommics. You will end up getting MSI's trying to look at it all day. Job is hard enough on the body. Other major reason is the saw is in my left hand and if its on my left side I would have to shuffle the saw to set the nail. Wasted move.

 

[bitzer]

Tip on the log or stump, pistol grip in right hand, push the nail in and away you go. No shuffling required. I'm a big believer in refining production. I wouldn't call it bean counting. Just keepin things tight. In other words trying to keep the constant ebb of money to a trickle. Timber cutting accounting. Where did you waste time today kind of thing. I'm also a big believer in trying and learning new things. Stagnant production happens easily. If i could just squeak out one more stick today. Besides i spend more in a week than many Americans make. It takes 300-400 bucks to feed my crew at home. 300-400 a week. I **** you not. Thats just the begining.

 

[chucker]

Tip on the log or stump, pistol grip in right hand, push the nail in and away you go. No shuffling required. I'm a big believer in refining production. I wouldn't call it bean counting. Just keepin things tight. In other words trying to keep the constant ebb of money to a trickle. Timber cutting accounting. Where did you waste time today kind of thing. I'm also a big believer in trying and learning new things. Stagnant production happens easily. If i could just squeak out one more stick today. Besides i spend more in a week than many Americans make. It takes 300-400 bucks to feed my crew at home. 300-400 a week. I **** you not. Thats just the begining.

? how many mouth's you feeding ? human that is ... with a food bill that high every week you must be on a beef steak(black/red angus for 7 nights and order out pizza for lunch daily! lol but then, a good timber faller will make that much in a short day!

 

[northmanlogging]

Last i heard there was 30-40 childern and 3-4 dogs, and a wife... plus hisself...

you'de think by now he'd have one of those merry go round things from Conan the Barbarian, and be generating enough electricity to power most of Wisconsin, or a fleet of Gilligan Bikes...

 

[bitzer]

I'm building up a log camp. Gotta start somewhere. I plan to move em into one of the big islands off the BC/Alaska coast to cut some of the last big timber up there someday.

 

[treeslayer2003]

i'd flip my lid if we spent that much on food. you should kill game any time you see it.

 

[bitzer]

Part of it is i have three people in the house with celiacs disease. Thats a legitamate gluten allergy that destroys the small intestine lineing. That gluten free stuff ain't cheap which is dumb cuz its mostly rice. Gluten is found in major grains like wheat, barely, and oats.