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Ohhh ya tell me about it!! **** that guy! I hear that all the time. I would have said ya I feel your pain, with the cost of fuel, insurance, comp, employees, and loans I can't afford to buy my family stuff for Christmas eaither. Both my chip and bucket truck are southern. No rust, chrome simulator rims and every Friday afternoon they get washed before the boys are off for the weekend. I worked hard to buy them and I like to keep em looking good. The bucket is an 02 and the chip truck is 99. I had a customer say to me once "holy smokes things must be good! look at these brand new trucks!!" I laughed and said they are both over 10 years old, I am just a tree guy I can't afford to buy brand new! People get me going too!! ********!!!


I know, same hear but its with Porches.
While I'm on my customer rant I my as well just throw out there if you can't afford Xmas presents don't ****ing guilt me into it , I did a job a few weeks ago and as the guy wrote the check he said man I guess the kids are gonna have a light Xmas this year . I wanted to choke the guy , then to top it all off I had to sidestep his range rover and watch out for dog **** piles from his 1000.00 boxer ! ****ing people make me nuts .....

I know, same here but with Porches.

And speaking of Firemen: How about that moonshiner dude on TV. Why hasn't he been arrested?
The one dude is a tree guy ! He sucks at making moonshine . Him and the other guy with the chops and glasses has the dog named peaches or smooches

That guy is NOT a treeguy. No way, no how. I seent him in action making a travesty out of a little tree. Everything the guy touches turns to crap. The only thing he is good at is keeping those chops in order and he probably pays someone else to do it.
 
Is it because you've got a big cock Doc?
Or then again, is it because your a crazy man Dan?
Or maybe its because you've thrown back about 10 Ben?

Regardless, you make me laugh my ass off when I read the stuff you post, and then repost, and then post again.
 
I know, same hear but its with Porches.


I know, same here but with Porches.

And speaking of Firemen: How about that moonshiner dude on TV. Why hasn't he been arrested?


That guy is NOT a treeguy. No way, no how. I seent him in action making a travesty out of a little tree. Everything the guy touches turns to crap. The only thing he is good at is keeping those chops in order and he probably pays someone else to do it.
You see what that says DR protein !?!??! Lumberjack
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I know, same hear but its with Porches.


I know, same here but with Porches.

And speaking of Firemen: How about that moonshiner dude on TV. Why hasn't he been arrested?


That guy is NOT a treeguy. No way, no how. I seent him in action making a travesty out of a little tree. Everything the guy touches turns to crap. The only thing he is good at is keeping those chops in order and he probably pays someone else to do it.
You see what that says DR protein !?!??! Lumberjack
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You guys have chainsaw operators certificates? Really? Around here, I am lucky to find someone with a drivers license. I don't think you could buy training for a "chainsaw operators certificate" in Kansas City even if you won the lottery.

America (the United States of, that is)...The land of the free, and home of the brave. Brave enough to do things without proper training, and free to make stupid choices. At least it was a few years back...
 
I know, same hear but its with Porches.


I know, same here but with Porches.

And speaking of Firemen: How about that moonshiner dude on TV. Why hasn't he been arrested?


That guy is NOT a treeguy. No way, no how. I seent him in action making a travesty out of a little tree. Everything the guy touches turns to crap. The only thing he is good at is keeping those chops in order and he probably pays someone else to do it.
You see what that says DR protein !?!??! Lumberjack
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Yeah, I've been working on my "networking". Trying to get my name out there and trying to figure out how to land some commercial gigs. It's not my strong point to say the least. What commercial avenues do you guys find to be the best? I'm not trying to get rich but I need some fillers to keep the guys working.

I usually get 2-8 calls a day in the summer. Middle of December - mid feb I get very few. Things are go go go 7 days a week in the summer I look forward to a Couple months of freezing, snowing and blowing weather off. I go over all the equipment, up date safety certifications with my guys, and try and go far south to an island where my phone doesn't work for a week or two. What I do is drop in and chat with local business' guys like contractors that need lot clearing for new houses, landscapers that need tree work done for their clients etc. flip em a hat and a card and shoot the **** and tell em you will refer them for landscape work and they can try you for tree work. One hand washes the other. I probably do tree work for half a dozen landscapers in my area and at least half a dozen contractors. I do all the tree work for the town and highway departments for local townships. A few years ago I put together a nice little portfolio with company name and info, insurance and comp certificates, list of equipment and photocopies of all of my guys records of training and certifications etc. Went to the head boss at the county highway department introduced myself, showed him the portfolio and told him it was his to keep. Thanked him for his time, told him I look forward to hearing from him, shook his hand and left. He called 2 weeks later and said we were more legit then the company they had used in the past and that they had a pile of dead ash for us along the road side and wanted to know when we could get at it. Try yellow pages, a website, maybe put a sign up on a busy road in town, put your trucks in local parades etc. Things will pick up as time goes on. I know it sucks when you go to the mail box and its all bills and No cheques for a month or 2. No one is thinking about tree work near Christmas and after Christmas when the visa bill comes in the mail. I had the kitesurfing gear packed and was about to book a plane ticket to Barbados and the phone rang. I bid on a job a month ago, approx 1100 trees along 25km of road. Gravel road with very little traffic. I got the job. Some trees are 6"dbh and some are 3'. Flop em in the ditch, chip the brush, leave the log for the log truck and off to the next one. Gonna be busy this winter by the looks of things. Hopefully it doesn't snow like a b*tch! Things will pick up for ya! Take care and stay safe.
 
You guys have chainsaw operators certificates? Really? Around here, I am lucky to find someone with a drivers license. I don't think you could buy training for a "chainsaw operators certificate" in Kansas City even if you won the lottery.

America (the United States of, that is)...The land of the free, and home of the brave. Brave enough to do things without proper training, and free to make stupid choices. At least it was a few years back...

Flew into KC last month, then drove down to Emporia and Chase County for a wedding. Things are most definitely different out there, but there different out here as well.
 
You guys have chainsaw operators certificates? Really? Around here, I am lucky to find someone with a drivers license. I don't think you could buy training for a "chainsaw operators certificate" in Kansas City even if you won the lottery.

America (the United States of, that is)...The land of the free, and home of the brave. Brave enough to do things without proper training, and free to make stupid choices. At least it was a few years back...
Ya we have all that good stuff. Tis the law, its my show and I don't f*#k around. I pay for my guys to get them but I hold onto all the paperwork. If a guy quits or I have to let him go he isn't down the road to Joe's tree service with a cutters ticket that I paid for. We also have our share of deadbeats around with no drivers licence etc. Put on ad online saying MUST HAVE VALID DRIVERS LICENCE, they call for a job, you have a drivers licence? ......ummm nope. I just hang up.
 
Is it because you've got a big cock Doc?
Or then again, is it because your a crazy man Dan?
Or maybe its because you've thrown back about 10 Ben?

Regardless, you make me laugh my ass off when I read the stuff you post, and then repost, and then post again.
I usually get 2-8 calls a day in the summer. Middle of December - mid feb I get very few. Things are go go go 7 days a week in the summer I look forward to a Couple months of freezing, snowing and blowing weather off. I go over all the equipment, up date safety certifications with my guys, and try and go far south to an island where my phone doesn't work for a week or two. What I do is drop in and chat with local business' guys like contractors that need lot clearing for new houses, landscapers that need tree work done for their clients etc. flip em a hat and a card and shoot the **** and tell em you will refer them for landscape work and they can try you for tree work. One hand washes the other. I probably do tree work for half a dozen landscapers in my area and at least half a dozen contractors. I do all the tree work for the town and highway departments for local townships. A few years ago I put together a nice little portfolio with company name and info, insurance and comp certificates, list of equipment and photocopies of all of my guys records of training and certifications etc. Went to the head boss at the county highway department introduced myself, showed him the portfolio and told him it was his to keep. Thanked him for his time, told him I look forward to hearing from him, shook his hand and left. He called 2 weeks later and said we were more legit then the company they had used in the past and that they had a pile of dead ash for us along the road side and wanted to know when we could get at it. Try yellow pages, a website, maybe put a sign up on a busy road in town, put your trucks in local parades etc. Things will pick up as time goes on. I know it sucks when you go to the mail box and its all bills and No cheques for a month or 2. No one is thinking about tree work near Christmas and after Christmas when the visa bill comes in the mail. I had the kitesurfing gear packed and was about to book a plane ticket to Barbados and the phone rang. I bid on a job a month ago, approx 1100 trees along 25km of road. Gravel road with very little traffic. I got the job. Some trees are 6"dbh and some are 3'. Flop em in the ditch, chip the brush, leave the log for the log truck and off to the next one. Gonna be busy this winter by the looks of things. Hopefully it doesn't snow like a b*tch! Things will pick up for ya! Take care and stay safe.


Also don't forget about nailing a shingle to a telephone pole.
 
Flew into KC last month, then drove down to Emporia and Chase County for a wedding. Things are most definitely different out there, but there different out here as well.

The drive from KC to Emporia is one of my favorites. You got to go through the Flint Hills of Kansas. Many miles of open prairie, almost no houses or trees. Many of the hills have little outcrops of rocks, like a crown on a bald guys head.

I think it is scenic, others think it is barren and boring.
 
" The problem is all inside your head", I said to me
The answer is easy if you take it logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to fell a tree

I said it really is my habit to intrude,
Furthermore, I hope my meaning won't be lost or misconstrued
I'll repeat myself at the risk of sounding crude
There must be fifty ways to fell a tree

You just put down the wedge, Reg
And hook it to the truck, Schmuck
You don't need no toy, Roy
Just drop the damn tree
No need to discuss much
Just cut it with the saw, Paul
And drop the damn tree.


Now the only name I could think of that rhymed with wedge was Reg so don't take it personally. There is absolutely no way I would actually be calling you a schmuck


So I drove up to work with one of my logger bubbers today in Lancaster Co. The first tree I zipped off the house without breaking any skylights but when it came to dropping the trunk here we went again with all that cutting and pounding and pulling on the rope with our hands til I was blue in the face.

Then I hucked myself up a couple little monsters til about 1:30 when I came down cause I was getting cranky and we needed to fell a poplar that was in the way of me finishing. It was felled in the direction of its lean and I thought this was going to be a quick thing but yet again Logger Bubbers is hammering with the wedges and working his chainsaw in the most vulgar of ways I ever seen. He was a-hammering and a-pounding for so long that I actually lost interest and hopped in my truck to eat organic granola bars and listen to my Paul Simon Cd. He was pounding them in and they were popping back out. I hope I am not that stubborn. He picked up his saw and I was thinking it was finally going to be over but instead he cut some bark off so the wedges would go in deeper.

There was another short spar standing there which I thought we should rig up nicely but before I knew it he's at it with the, well, you know, and we're at it with the, well, you know that too. He ended up pounding so hard and we were pulling so hard the thing chaired to the side and went towards the house. Of course if we had hooked it to the truck and made a normal, everyday, run of the mill notch and backcut that wouldn't have happened and if it did start to fall sideways I would have stomped the ****ing gas pedal and brought it down where it supposed to go.

But MAN! I was up some big tall oaks today and cutting long, heavy horizontals to which I wondered if I would ever see my kid again. Knocked out three which surprised me cause I have been sitting around eating and drinking since about a week and half ago.

Now sing with me:

Put down the wedge, Reg
Hook it to the truck, Buck
Cut it with the saw, Paul
I gotta pee, Lee.

Reg, you better be singing cause if yer not that would hurt my feelings and I am very sensitive to that sort of thing. No joke and I am not drunk or anything.
Bet you wish you had my wraptor! Should of called me when you were done. We could have got a coupke beers.

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Ya we have all that good stuff. Tis the law, its my show and I don't f*#k around. I pay for my guys to get them but I hold onto all the paperwork. If a guy quits or I have to let him go he isn't down the road to Joe's tree service with a cutters ticket that I paid for. We also have our share of deadbeats around with no drivers licence etc. Put on ad online saying MUST HAVE VALID DRIVERS LICENCE, they call for a job, you have a drivers licence? ......ummm nope. I just hang up.

That's not right to hang up on a would be employee because he lost his driver's license. No, you should laugh robustly and come up with some outrageous put downs before you hang up.
 
I usually get 2-8 calls a day in the summer. Middle of December - mid feb I get very few. Things are go go go 7 days a week in the summer I look forward to a Couple months of freezing, snowing and blowing weather off. I go over all the equipment, up date safety certifications with my guys, and try and go far south to an island where my phone doesn't work for a week or two. What I do is drop in and chat with local business' guys like contractors that need lot clearing for new houses, landscapers that need tree work done for their clients etc. flip em a hat and a card and shoot the **** and tell em you will refer them for landscape work and they can try you for tree work. One hand washes the other. I probably do tree work for half a dozen landscapers in my area and at least half a dozen contractors. I do all the tree work for the town and highway departments for local townships. A few years ago I put together a nice little portfolio with company name and info, insurance and comp certificates, list of equipment and photocopies of all of my guys records of training and certifications etc. Went to the head boss at the county highway department introduced myself, showed him the portfolio and told him it was his to keep. Thanked him for his time, told him I look forward to hearing from him, shook his hand and left. He called 2 weeks later and said we were more legit then the company they had used in the past and that they had a pile of dead ash for us along the road side and wanted to know when we could get at it. Try yellow pages, a website, maybe put a sign up on a busy road in town, put your trucks in local parades etc. Things will pick up as time goes on. I know it sucks when you go to the mail box and its all bills and No cheques for a month or 2. No one is thinking about tree work near Christmas and after Christmas when the visa bill comes in the mail. I had the kitesurfing gear packed and was about to book a plane ticket to Barbados and the phone rang. I bid on a job a month ago, approx 1100 trees along 25km of road. Gravel road with very little traffic. I got the job. Some trees are 6"dbh and some are 3'. Flop em in the ditch, chip the brush, leave the log for the log truck and off to the next one. Gonna be busy this winter by the looks of things. Hopefully it doesn't snow like a b*tch! Things will pick up for ya! Take care and stay safe.
Good post! I do all the things you said about selling work, the more people that know who you are and what you do the more sales ya get. If I sat around waiting for the phone to ring from a couple phone book ads I would not be where im at today. Another thing that goes along ways is thank you cards, people really appreciate them.
 
Good post! I do all the things you said about selling work, the more people that know who you are and what you do the more sales ya get. If I sat around waiting for the phone to ring from a couple phone book ads I would not be where im at today. Another thing that goes along ways is thank you cards, people really appreciate them.
I drive past there house and beep , kinda like a stalker but not really cause I beeped
 
Bet you wish you had my wraptor! Should of called me when you were done. We could have got a coupke beers.

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To be honest: I am debating on whether a Wraptor is much more practical than spiking. Yes, it sure is nice to ride it up HELL YEAH but today we did not even shoot any lines as it was best to start at the bottom and cut my way into everything cleaning out the stubs , little branches and removing the lower limbs as I went. The one tree I climbed twice and wasn't that bad.

Mike has himself a hell-of-a job up there. It was just me and him ( which was crazy) but one of the gentlemen who lives there was helping out quite a bit or I would have quit because I can only wait on the ground crew for a little before I get impatient, then cranky, then downright mad.

The guy that lives there was around 60 and he did damn good! I told him I would rather him not be in the tiny house the trees were over and he was kind enough not to start his wood stove if you know what I mean cause I would have passed out if he did.

When we first rolled in the owner of the property came up and asked me if I was " the monkey man". I was about to tell him that I am a cold Italian pizza, could use a lemon sqeeza, and jam a chainsaw into his throat but held off on that until he asked me if I had been to forestry school to which I replied, " Huh? School?" After that he went away and left me alone which was the desired effect.

I dunno, I think I am going to have to tell Mike that we are going to need another man for the rest of the job. Its not fair to rely on the 60 year old tenant who lives there and its not fair to me. He is going to started hating me soon. There is still about 15 serious trees up there to takedown and more are being ( and should be) added to the list. I was thinking it might be good to have an 85 foot lift. I suppose there might be room for a crane but I am not the guy to answer that question.

Nah, this is not a Wraptor kind of job I don't think and if someone doesn't get up there with something to pull these trees over with and make sure the ropes are running right I just don't know. The first real branch that I cut I prayed I would live to see my kid again and that Mike was able to let the 3/4 inch rope run through the puny over-extended portawrap. Then we did it a few more times.


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