whadja do today?

[pdqdl]

Working ole faithful today. Let's just say she don't like this 16 degree weather !

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I used to have a bucket truck almost exactly like that one. Same bed, outriggers, boom, canopy, cradle up front. The boom was not yellow, though.

Do you have problems with air bubbles getting into the lines when you park it at night? The oil in ours would settle, suck some air past the o-rings, then the control handle would take forever to start working, particularly in cold weather.

 

[luckydad]

No trouble like that with this boom. It's a 1974 model boom, and non-power assist. That hurts on cold days for sure.


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[pdqdl]

Mine was a '71. What is meant by "non-power assist"?

 

[luckydad]

The pistol grip don't have power steering !! Lol !!


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[pdqdl]

??? I wasn't aware that any of them did. I really liked the feel of that hydraulic control. I wouldn't want it with any kind of power assist.

Way up in the air, close to branches, I want to be able to feel that hydraulic valve opening.

Sadly, I sold the old truck. I was getting a bit nervous about the reliability of the whole rig, and I wasn't using it enough to pay for the insurance and maintenance.

 

[sgreanbeans]

Update. I still hate winter

 

[sgreanbeans]

Bid a job yesterday, guy had many others work there before. Bad work. I give him a price, he shows me that I am twice as much as the next highest. Tells me he is still getting bids. We keep talking and he is one of those that thinks that he has a idea of what Arboriculture is all about, but he is dead wrong. He tells me what he has been told, by the big orange and big green and other locals. Tells me what he has been told on how u have to climb a tree when pruning. Gotta wear spikes, no matter what. I correct him, tell him the deal. He is curious on how I climb a tree with out them. So I start to explain it all to him. He keeps stopping me to understand certain points. About pruning, tree reactions, whys and whens. This guy is really cool, and patient, as I was telling him he was wrong on many things. "But soinso told me this" I really cant understand how people can straight up commit fraud and still have a job. He was getting told to treat a dead ass tree (no bark) for iron chlorosis and it will come back.....by a Arborist. Same Arborist treated all the neighbors OAKS FOR EAB! WTF! Some people will say or do anything for money. I am sure that somewhere there, a fraudulent crime could be charged. What really kills me is that these people just go with it. It shows, that the GP, really does not have a clue about actual, real, tree care. One of these dipchits is working across the street from him today. I signed him after the talk, which surprised me. I had written it off due to the price, but wanted to educate the guy, so I stayed and gave my spill. He liked that I was persistent and learning what he thought he knew and then correcting him. He told me that the one guy (local) would be there,across the street, so we rescheduled what I had setup and we are going to do his today instead. Going to go talk to this hacker and try to set him straight, this should be interesting. I know of the guy, but don't know the guy. Who knows, maybe I will convert him from the dark side. He may be just a good ol bubba, doing what he thinks is right. As for the Arborist, I know him well, and it does not surprise me at all that he lies to make that sales goal. Dude is a turd, but highly regarded? This is the second time I have heard of him telling people to treat trees, other than ash, for EAB.

 

[treeclimber101]

Bid a job yesterday, guy had many others work there before. Bad work. I give him a price, he shows me that I am twice as much as the next highest. Tells me he is still getting bids. We keep talking and he is one of those that thinks that he has a idea of what Arboriculture is all about, but he is dead wrong. He tells me what he has been told, by the big orange and big green and other locals. Tells me what he has been told on how u have to climb a tree when pruning. Gotta wear spikes, no matter what. I correct him, tell him the deal. He is curious on how I climb a tree with out them. So I start to explain it all to him. He keeps stopping me to understand certain points. About pruning, tree reactions, whys and whens. This guy is really cool, and patient, as I was telling him he was wrong on many things. "But soinso told me this" I really cant understand how people can straight up commit fraud and still have a job. He was getting told to treat a dead ass tree (no bark) for iron chlorosis and it will come back.....by a Arborist. Same Arborist treated all the neighbors OAKS FOR EAB! WTF! Some people will say or do anything for money. I am sure that somewhere there, a fraudulent crime could be charged. What really kills me is that these people just go with it. It shows, that the GP, really does not have a clue about actual, real, tree care. One of these dipchits is working across the street from him today. I signed him after the talk, which surprised me. I had written it off due to the price, but wanted to educate the guy, so I stayed and gave my spill. He liked that I was persistent and learning what he thought he knew and then correcting him. He told me that the one guy (local) would be there,across the street, so we rescheduled what I had setup and we are going to do his today instead. Going to go talk to this hacker and try to set him straight, this should be interesting. I know of the guy, but don't know the guy. Who knows, maybe I will convert him from the dark side. He may be just a good ol bubba, doing what he thinks is right. As for the Arborist, I know him well, and it does not surprise me at all that he lies to make that sales goal. Dude is a turd, but highly regarded? This is the second time I have heard of him telling people to treat trees, other than ash, for EAB.

I applaud you for trying to make it better , I have no patience for that I can't be bothered maybe that's why I don't do good as a estimator I can't take having someone tell me things when they are wrong I won't argue I will walk away and simply say I disagree and maybe read a ******* book you fool !

 

[mckeetree]

1. As for the Arborist, I know him well, and it does not surprise me at all that he lies to make that sales goal.

You could be describing a jerk we have here in my area. The turd bills himself as an arborist but really he is a nothing. He outbids me on fertilizer jobs with prices so low it wouldn't even pay for the product.

 

[treeclimber101]

Couple weeks ago I had a decent heated run in when those ********* were spiking my customers 200 year old sycamore with the intention of taking 3 20" branches , he tries to tell me that the neighbor has sky rights now granted I was alone with 5 guys 3 look shady and dare I say dangerous I got so mad the blood vessel in my forehead popped out I told the climber if he didn't come down I would cut his rope as high as I could reach he shot down and got in my face I told the owner that if he wanted to go further I would blow his house of its foundation with the homeowner my customer standing there .... I walked awAy thinking that I was gonna get my ass kicked at any second bad ! It ended with the owner grabbing my shoulder and apologizing for all the mess I was expecting a fight my hands were shaking and I was overheating at that point I coulda chucked the climber 20 ft I was so mad , I told my wife and she reamed my ass telling me how out of control I sound , thought about it later when the homeowner texted me and asked if I had simmered down he said he was 2 seconds away from calling the cops then I thought at that point I am scaring the homeowner ! So I am just gonna avoid trying to save the world to keep my own sanity

 

[pdqdl]

You really ought to hire a personal videographer just to follow you around and record that stuff. I hear there are folks making a lot of money off of Youtube, and it sounds like you would be a hoot to watch.

 

[treeclimber101]

You really ought to hired a personal videographer just to follow you around and record that stuff. I hear there are folks making a lot of money off of Youtube, and it sounds like you would be a hoot to watch.

All that experience taught me is that I need to change I am almost 40

 

[pdqdl]

Ahhh...that depends on what you really need to change. Once you get a little more time under your belt, you might decide that you would be better off unchanged.

It does sound like you maybe need to bone up a little bit on diplomacy, but there is a lot to be said for having the conviction to take a stand and do your best to overcome problems in life. The wussies that just watch problems without taking action end up missing out on a lot of personal satisfaction.

Admit it...you felt good about yourself afterwards for standing up for what you believe, didn't you?

(if you didn't, why did you tell us about it? Hmmm?)​

 

[KenJax Tree]

My Grandpa always told me "stand up for what you believe even if you stand alone" and "never let your mouth write a check your ass can't cash"


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[treeclimber101]

I was more unless responding to Scott about dealing with guys who are out there ruining what we care about "trees" I don't want to drive down a road and see houses with whacked out hacked up trees I mean I say if that is the way the homeowner wants it that's what there gonna get , as far as education of another tree service ,I am not a teacher unless your touching my trees but I am not gonna give an inch if some momo plans on taking advantage of someone who has given me the responsibility of maintaining there yard ! Would I have cut his rope yea I would just to see him fall 6 ft on his ass , blow the owners house up prolly not I would fear that the fire would spread an burn down the entire neighborhood ! So I understand right from wrong but I am not gonna say that if u got mad enough I wouldn't do it LOL

 

[treeclimber101]

Lately I can help to feel slightly hopeless to the door knocking mentality that a lot of guys make a lot of money from , I just can't bring myself to taking advantage of people the karma that seems to follow that always to me is much worse , I also feel that when I see these guys after the fact whether it be at the saw shop or convience store and they know me at least they can respect the fact I care enough to lose my temper and start thinking like a crazy person , I don't like the thought of a homeowner being scared of my behavior , those other tre guys can go suck a dick though LOL

 

[tree MDS]

Oh, brother... Tommy Boy the tree hugger.

 

[treeclimber101]

Oh, brother... Tommy Boy the tree hugger.

Well his lanyard wasn't going around that tree so his ass woulda been pretty ******* jammed up when he was short on rope ! Tommy boy LOL

 

[mckeetree]

1. I don't like the thought of a homeowner being scared of my behavior

We had a homeowner down the street from where we used to live shoot the tree guy he hired with a pellet pistol five or six times. It was one of those CO2 .177 cal deals. I think he actually had BB's in it at the time. The tree guy the HO hired got into it with for some reason with a guy from the city and next thing anybody knows the HO is shooting his tree man with a pellet pistol.

 

[gorman]

There was some dodo knocking on doors down in a rural part of my state telling people their trees had ALB and they had to pay him to treat it. He was bragging about it (actually believing his own bs) and waving a bottle of OTC sevin he was using. I told him he didn't know what he was talking about and he said "who cares, i'm getting paid". He's now doing firewood.