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Dale said:
Hey Crofter, I'd bet that if Brian ruined a "semi-good" coil from a customers saw by immersing it in water, he would happily tell the customer that the new coil is on him... no charge......being the honest technician that he is.:greenchainsaw:

Thanks for the replies guys, I'm sure there's more than one way to skin the cat. Just gotta try one out. Appreciate all the responses.
Stick to computers kid, it's obvious you only know enough to agree with someone on this subject and can offer no opinion of your own. I give him some credit for what he believe's, but I'm sure chainsaw mechanic isn't his vocation.
 
Brian, If a soaking suits you so be it. My saws will never be submerged for cleaning on purpose. Yes a saw is meant to get wet. Wet is different from diving. I don't think bearings like being wet with anything other than fuel/oil. Go take a look at a good 2 cycle engine failure analysis book, they show a condition called "snow score" where water in the intake displaces oil and scuff the piston, the same contition can occur in VERY humid hot air. I think any water in the crankcase would have a similar effect. Sealing off the intake and exhaust and pressurizing the crankcase to find a leak is not the same a dropping a saw in the bathtub for a soak either. I have submerged sealed and presurized dirtbike engines.
 
sedanman said:
Brian, If a soaking suits you so be it. My saws will never be submerged for cleaning on purpose. Yes a saw is meant to get wet. Wet is different from diving. I don't think bearings like being wet with anything other than fuel/oil. Go take a look at a good 2 cycle engine failure analysis book, they show a condition called "snow score" where water in the intake displaces oil and scuff the piston, the same contition can occur in VERY humid hot air. I think any water in the crankcase would have a similar effect. Sealing off the intake and exhaust and pressurizing the crankcase to find a leak is not the same a dropping a saw in the bathtub for a soak either. I have submerged sealed and presurized dirtbike engines.
Sedanman, I don't submerge a saw in water to clean it, I have a tub that look's like a part's cleaner with a screen that's about 4" off the bottom. I have about 3 part's fueloil to 1 part gas for cleaner, set the saw on screen and dip into liquid with brush then onto area's you want cleaned. then blow out with garden hose or air hose. if for any reason you think you have water in the engine, pull the plug and pour in some gas mix pull the engine over, dump out gas mix and your good to go. your right, water in the bearing's is not a good thing.
 
Dale said:
Lakeside... $20 + C Note = $120. I'm not sure a used 015 AV is worth that much, let alone paying $120 just for a cleaning:cheers: The saw does run for xx seconds, then it conks out so I'm not suspecting coil though I am suspecting it is fuel related.

So just simply soak the saw in 4:1 water:purple solution and not worry about harming the points condenser or anything else ? I'll trust you on this.

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Hey. the price was an example of the expectations of a customer with respect to the realities of the shop price for a complete fix... not just a clean, and, don't don't "soak the saw", squirt it , the wash it off.... Clean water won't hurt anything..

BTW, an 015 working well is easily worth that, and more, out here.
 
sugarbush said:
Sedanman, I don't submerge a saw in water to clean it, I have a tub that look's like a part's cleaner with a screen that's about 4" off the bottom. I have about 3 part's fueloil to 1 part gas for cleaner, set the saw on screen and dip into liquid with brush then onto area's you want cleaned. then blow out with garden hose or air hose. if for any reason you think you have water in the engine, pull the plug and pour in some gas mix pull the engine over, dump out gas mix and your good to go. your right, water in the bearing's is not a good thing.


If you do get water inside an engine the very best way to get it out is to pour Isopropal (rubbing) alcohol into the motor, swish around, then pour out, a couple of times. The water is dissolved into the alcohol. Then a fuel/oil mix swish...

As for coils being submerged? No problem in my book. If they have crack or whatever, and get affected by moisture, they aren't suitable for use in a chainsaw anyhow..
 
Lakeside53 said:
If you do get water inside an engine the very best way to get it out is to pour Isopropal (rubbing) alcohol into the motor, swish around, then pour out, a couple of times. The water is dissolved into the alcohol. Then a fuel/oil mix swish...

As for coils being submerged? No problem in my book. If they have crack or whatever, and get affected by moisture, they aren't suitable for use in a chainsaw anyhow..
Lakeside, you put thing's much better then I did. I type so slow I lose my train of thought. I never knew that about rubbing alcohol.
 
Sugarbush... thanks for the replies... and the compliment "kid" :cheers:
Those little smiley Icons are a queer little cyber way to express "cyber emotion". I was making a dumb little wisecrack at something that I guess is very near and dear to your heart. If you have enough passion and good heartedness to help folks out on an internet board, I'm sure you aren't out to rip off good customers. You took my stupid little remark out of context. Let's move on eh ?
 
Dale said:
Sugarbush... thanks for the replies... and the compliment "kid" :cheers:
Those little smiley Icons are a queer little cyber way to express "cyber emotion". I was making a dumb little wisecrack at something that I guess is very near and dear to your heart. If you have enough passion and good heartedness to help folks out on an internet board, I'm sure you aren't out to rip off good customers. You took my stupid little remark out of context. Let's move on eh ?
You must be a good person to want to make thing's right, that "kid" remark on my part was dumb, moving on? I'm all for that.
 

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