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I've been using the $20 HF automotive tester. It works but I don't think it's too accurate for chainsaws. Everything I measure is under 125 psi including a 281xp that about broke my arm every time I started it. My excellent running Stihls with like new bores and pistons measure 100psi. So I know that it's not correct.

I'd think not having much hose volume in the works may be important (maybe not). I also read about having a schrader in the the plug adapter. I do think hose volume will make a difference since it reduces compression ratio as someone pointed out in a 2013 thread here. The HF tester hose probably has about half as much volume as the saw displacement for small (30cc) saws. May not make a difference in cars since the cyl displacement is much higher.

Here's Steve's Small Engine talking about the Schrader in the end. He said he thinks it reduces the compression ratio to not have it at the end. I can't see this being the case since when it opens, you're still compressing the saw plus hose volume to the gauge. But one comment on YT said, it's likely because some of the compression has time to leak back through the exhaust port. This makes more sense.

Whatever the case, maybe I need to find something that will give me more accurate results. I like to record the compression from saws as time goes on to track when they need work.

What compression gauge are YOU using?
 
Sten's left and TU-21 right small engine ones I use. But long as schrader valve at bottom of longer hose ones still reads right.

We already tested this and if he said that wrong. Long hose as long as schrader valve in bottom read the same.

Couple different saws. I was checking to show dials.

Pull till it stops climbing in psi shown.

All read same when compare. TU21 25-28 shipped. Stens 65 shipped. Both small engine ones.
 

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Got to have the schrader valve in the spark plug hole. Any farther back effectively increases the combustion chamber volume and reduces compression reading, more so on smaller CC engines. Here is an adaptor I modified to get the valve into the chamber. Before the change, I was getting 90 psi. on a Stihl MS181. Afterwards, I was getting 130 .

adaptor 3.jpgadaptor 2.jpgadaptor 1.jpg
 
Some info I saved from threads on this site about small engine compression testing, schrader valves, their location, types of valves, how to build a SMALL ENGINE compression tester.
Also links to buying a tester that will read correctly with adapters for small CC engines.
I have two know accurate gauges.
If I see a low compression on a small engine I confirm such with my other gauge. I've seen small engine problems blamed on low compression when the run problem was elsewhere.





Link to a video about small engine compression testing6/23

https://www.arboristsite.com/thread...-04&utm_content=daily_newsletter#post-8020777



Here is a link about modding Schrader valves and homemade testers, actron tester, etc

Compression tester issues:

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/compression-tester-issues.310133/



I got 3 of the Napa 700-9556 compression gauge Schrader valves today after the local NAPA ordered from their warehouse. The come 5 in a box and you can buy them each @ approx. $2.20 each. They worked A-ok. One was defective out of it's sealed package, was not spring loaded on back check due to a broken spring, noticed immediately before attempting install for test..





3 /2018
Napa #700 9556 is obsolete.

Here is a special low pressure schrader valve for compression gauges Milton and Lisle part number's and I seen them on flea bay as still available.

Milton 1251-2 @ about $5 each

Lisle 20100 @ about $7



Update info 12/20

Possible good compression gauge for chainsaws at $40, STANDIX 1023

Mentioned at this link 12/20

https://www.arboristsite.com/commun...mpression-gauge-and-tested-a-few-saws.348043/
 
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