What if nobody's crane would start?

[Plasmech]

What's with a topic like this...

I've been watching video after video, yea even including that Paul Nosak drama/abuse series, and it's like every job is done with a crane. Say you had a huge limb hanging over the top of someone's $750,000 house and your crane was broken and you couldn't find one to rent. How would that be handled? Are there still people who know how to do this work? I'd really like to see some vids of non-spiked climbers pruning trees without the dang crane.

Nothing against cranes, heck that's the way to go if you can afford it.

 

[tree MDS]

Plas, you can fix the title of your thread by going to advanced edit I believe.

Crane abuse seems to be a growing trend these days sadly. They can make a so-so climber feel (and look) like a hero - but they are fun!

And yes some of us can still climb just about anything. We are a dying breed as a friend says. Now take yer pink panties back from "Diesel Dan" and keep practicing, lol.

P.S. are you gonna get yerself some bee keeper gogles like your new mentor now??

 

[Plasmech]

Plas, you can fix the title of your thread by going to advanced edit I believe.

Crane abuse seems to be a growing trend these days sadly. They can make a so-so climber feel (and look) like a hero - but they are fun!

And yes some of us can still climb just about anything. We are a dying breed as a friend says. Now take yer pink panties back from "Diesel Dan" and keep practicing, lol.

P.S. are you gonna get yerself some bee keeper gogles like your new mentor now??

Ha yea, I should get a pair of those googles. Being that it's winter, I haven't had a problem with fog-up yet though. I think wiping plastic goggles with some isopropyl in the morning should keep the fog under control.

The cranes are a little frustrating to me because that's all I see in the videos, I can't find any of limb walkers which is something I really need to learn. Take downs will be fun but pruning will be more rewarding I think. Still got a ways to go though.

 

[RedlineIt]

Plasmech,

This is just for limbwalks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Vv-BWhbUg

See how the climber keeps his weight on his rope and keeps just enough traction on the branch to facilitate movement? This is competition climbing, and on one of the limbs a plumb-bob has been set on the end of the branch a few inches over a bucket of water, wet plumb-bob = demerits or disqualification, depends on the competition.

If my link doesn't work, or you want to see more just go to YouTube and search "itcc". (International Tree Climbing Championships). Lots of cool vids.


Cranes are fun, fast, expensive, but sometimes still the cheaper option, sometimes the only safe option. And sometimes, not an option, no access.

Setting up rigging can get complicated, sometimes simple. Google on Hobbs Device or GRCS. Those are both lifting devices that use a rope bollard with mechanical advantage, ie: gearing, that arboricultural inventiveness has stolen and adapted from yachting, where they hoist sails, we hoist parts of trees.

But for both those devices you still need a really secure overhead point to rig from. Sometimes that point is so sketchy you just have to get out to the end and go with really small cuts. I've done some jobs where I forego the rigging, get out on the limb, attach a really small piece to my saddle with slings, cut, and walk the piece back in myself to where I can toss it to safety and then go back out for the next piece. It's laborious, slow, and rare, but sometimes the only way.

But there is always a way

RedlineIt

 

[Nailsbeats]

Plas, you can fix the title of your thread by going to advanced edit I believe.

Crane abuse seems to be a growing trend these days sadly. They can make a so-so climber feel (and look) like a hero - but they are fun!

And yes some of us can still climb just about anything. We are a dying breed as a friend says. Now take yer pink panties back from "Diesel Dan" and keep practicing, lol.

P.S. are you gonna get yerself some bee keeper gogles like your new mentor now??

Bee keepers in the house! lol.

 

[Plasmech]

Plasmech,

This is just for limbwalks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Vv-BWhbUg

See how the climber keeps his weight on his rope and keeps just enough traction on the branch to facilitate movement? This is competition climbing, and on one of the limbs a plumb-bob has been set on the end of the branch a few inches over a bucket of water, wet plumb-bob = demerits or disqualification, depends on the competition.

If my link doesn't work, or you want to see more just go to YouTube and search "itcc". (International Tree Climbing Championships). Lots of cool vids.


Cranes are fun, fast, expensive, but sometimes still the cheaper option, sometimes the only safe option. And sometimes, not an option, no access.

Setting up rigging can get complicated, sometimes simple. Google on Hobbs Device or GRCS. Those are both lifting devices that use a rope bollard with mechanical advantage, ie: gearing, that arboricultural inventiveness has stolen and adapted from yachting, where they hoist sails, we hoist parts of trees.

But for both those devices you still need a really secure overhead point to rig from. Sometimes that point is so sketchy you just have to get out to the end and go with really small cuts. I've done some jobs where I forego the rigging, get out on the limb, attach a really small piece to my saddle with slings, cut, and walk the piece back in myself to where I can toss it to safety and then go back out for the next piece. It's laborious, slow, and rare, but sometimes the only way.

But there is always a way

RedlineIt

That guy works so fast I couldn't learn anything! LOL. I guess I could just watch the sawforhire vids and learn EVERYTHING huh? :monkey:

Good stuff though, thanks for the vid.

 

[Mikecutstrees]

The ITCC Tree climbing championship is in RI this year. Should be a great oppurtunity to see some amazing climbing. I believe its in july. Mike

 

[tomtrees58]

its called rigging that's what we do all day tom trees

 

[treemandan]

its called rigging that's what we do all day tom trees

well then what in the %$#@ is a libertarian then?

 

[Nailsbeats]

well then what in the %$#@ is a libertarian then?

I think that's somebody that works with books.

 

[Plasmech]

well then what in the %$#@ is a libertarian then?

A Libertarian is someone who wants to take care of himself, not have the government take care of him, and believes that the constitution should be followed precisely. Has nothing to do with tree work, just threw it in there.

try www.cato.org