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I just cut up some live white oak and didn't think it much harder than maple or beech. Very straight grain and easy to split, though even with some knots in it.80% of what I cut is pecan, and I believe you about its hardness, as much as I can tell from handling it and occasionally splitting it. I guess I’ve never run up against anything harder, until I get to live oak, which is exponentially harder and heavier, and takes way more effort to work.
When I was out in Arizona a friend of mine tried to figure out how to get maple logs culled from fields in the midwest out there for firewood. We figured it would sell like crazy but could never get the logistics nailed down.I like pecan for smoking and burning as well. A lot of people down here turn their nose up at it because they've been spoiled on live oak. People up north who burn wood for heat would kill for a lousy swamp oak, when all they have are conifer and aspen. Imagine what pecan would be worth. People in the south think pine is toxic to burn, no kidding. I actually liked the smell and handle-ability of pine.
You’re not confusing live white oak with live oak are you? Because Live Oak is not white. It’s not a very straight grained wood, and you will not split it with anything other than hydraulics, and strong ones.I just cut up some live white oak and didn't think it much harder than maple or beech. Very straight grain and easy to split, though even with some knots in it.
I guess I did. I thought that was what you were referring to which puzzled me. By Live Oak you mean oak like Swamp Oak used to build the USS Constitution or Old Ironsides? That stuff is famously toughYou’re not confusing live white oak with live oak are you? Because Live Oak is not white. It’s not a very straight grained wood, and you will not split it with anything other than hydraulics, and strong ones.
Not sure what "up north" you're referring to, but up here we don't generally heat with any pine species. (Well i do during ahoukder season.) out west and up in Canada is a different story. as well as the different species they have actually burn/ heat very well, even if nit as good as hard woods they certainly arnt as bad as a white pine. We heated the ranch out in Montana nearly exclusively on lodgepole pine. Was a very good burn wood. Filled the boiler every 10 odd hours unless it was real cold then every 6-8 hours.I like pecan for smoking and burning as well. A lot of people down here turn their nose up at it because they've been spoiled on live oak. People up north who burn wood for heat would kill for a lousy swamp oak, when all they have are conifer and aspen. Imagine what pecan would be worth. People in the south think pine is toxic to burn, no kidding. I actually liked the smell and handle-ability of pine.
No. I’m referring to the species Live Oak(Quercus Fusiformis). It’s an evergreen actually. Swamp oak, is what a lot of southerners call pin oak by mistake. Neither are anywhere close to being as dense as live oak. Swamp oak can actually be split with a maul about as easy as Ponderosa.I guess I did. I thought that was what you were referring to which puzzled me. By Live Oak you mean oak like Swamp Oak used to build the USS Constitution or Old Ironsides? That stuff is famously tough
Everything is “up north” for me. I live on the Gulf coast, south of Galveston. I’m referring to Colorado and Montana. I collected, cut, split, stacked, and burned tons of any pine I could get my hands on, mostly Ponderosa and lodgepole, but also everything in between including poplar. I never minded any of it. I have fond memories of the smell and ambience of a stove burning in my mountain home nearly 10 months a year. I always had north of 10 cords in the wood lot, a couple on the porch and a cord or more right in my living room. I had to give up a lot during Covid and ended up moving back home.Not sure what "up north" you're referring to, but up here we don't generally heat with any pine species. (Well i do during ahoukder season.) out west and up in Canada is a different story. as well as the different species they have actually burn/ heat very well, even if nit as good as hard woods they certainly arnt as bad as a white pine. We heated the ranch out in Montana nearly exclusively on lodgepole pine. Was a very good burn wood. Filled the boiler every 10 odd hours unless it was real cold then every 6-8 hours.
Lodgepole pine, white pine, some douglas fir, larch, and white poplar are all that we burn in north central Alberta. There just isn't anything else around. A good try larch or lodgepole are probably my two favorites but seasoned white poplar is also good. Everything cuts easy though, I keep long bars on almost everything just because its peanuts to cut.Not sure what "up north" you're referring to, but up here we don't generally heat with any pine species. (Well i do during ahoukder season.) out west and up in Canada is a different story. as well as the different species they have actually burn/ heat very well, even if nit as good as hard woods they certainly arnt as bad as a white pine. We heated the ranch out in Montana nearly exclusively on lodgepole pine. Was a very good burn wood. Filled the boiler every 10 odd hours unless it was real cold then every 6-8 hours.
There were a lot of larch in Montana. Western Larch. Everyone there calls them a tamarack. I cut a bunch but never burned any. Is it any good? I recall hearing something about its sap content.Lodgepole pine, white pine, some douglas fir, larch, and white poplar are all that we burn in north central Alberta. There just isn't anything else around. A good try larch or lodgepole are probably my two favorites but seasoned white poplar is also good. Everything cuts easy though, I keep long bars on almost everything just because its peanuts to cut.
It smells very fragrant and burns good and hot. Anything coniferous is sappy but manageable with a good hot fireplace. I avoid anything killed by bugs or porcupines because those trees are so full of resin they hardly burn and when they do its like pouring diesel into your wood stove.There were a lot of larch in Montana. Western Larch. Everyone there calls them a tamarack. I cut a bunch but never burned any. Is it any good? I recall hearing something about its sap content.
No. I think we are not understanding each other. I know what a pin oak is as I have 2 in my yard. Swamp oak is a slang term for several Quercus species. I am referring to Quercus virginiana.No. I’m referring to the species Live Oak(Quercus Fusiformis). It’s an evergreen actually. Swamp oak, is what a lot of southerners call pin oak by mistake. Neither are anywhere close to being as dense as live oak. Swamp oak can actually be split with a maul about as easy as Ponderosa.
I do, fairly frequently when clearing out and thinning fence rows. Dry it's terribly hard, and the bugs dragging dirt up into the bark doesn't help a chain out at all. One od my favorite burn woods but not my favorite to cut.So nobody else cuts black locust? That is hard stuff and dried is the worst.
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