When to retire climbing line?

[MasterBlaster]

Who's playing guitar? The head?

 

[SilverBlue]

He was on tour and could not make the gig. There were three bands here tonight and another lead joined in afterwards.

 

[OutOnaLimb]

Martial arts hun??? I am a master of the art of Gun Fu, with a black belt in Ching, ching... Pow!!!!

Kenn

 

[Stumper]

Mike and Brian have nailed the answer pretty well (has anyone else noticed that if those two agree then they are so right there is no point in argueing? I climb on a rope as long as I'm comfortable with it-which means either a few years or until a strand is severed. Undamaged but used lines are great lowering lines. Lines with cut strands are tie down ropes or something else completely non-critical. I have a hank of Safety Blue that I climbed on for, I think, 4 years and never cut (pre Silky days) it is only moderately fuzzed but it is a lowering rope.-The little voice said "It's about time for a new rope." The YellowJacket I'm climbing on now got more wear on it in a few months than that Safety Blue did in 4 years ( I should mention that I am an infrequent climber-not an everyday use situation by any reckoning.) Part of that has to do with the wear characteristics of YJ but most is due to Silky. I have no severed strands but several nicks that severed fibers(probably 25-30% of a strand cut) It is still perfectly safe-but I'll downgrade it and replace soon. The rule that says never use a reject/downgraded climbing line for a bull rope is reasonable IF the rope is being pulled off climbing duty because its safety is suspect. The rule is ridiculous if you downgrade serviceable climbing ropes in order to replace with new.

 

[OutOnaLimb]

We need to diferentiate between simple lowering of branches over the neighbors house, (little pidly crap) and a 10 ' 8" limb over her brand new greenshed.,That could be pulled up on a pulley out and the way of danger. All situations are depentant on that fact.I would never rig up big chunks and then Send them down on a climb line that the groundie cut half way throuth. I Deal with big stuff that needs to be lowered into tiny little back yards. I cant just drop 1,500 shock load onto an old climb line.I rock with minimum 1/2 stable braid

kenn

 

[rbtree]

Nice pics, Rob! You sure scored a great deal with the new camera.

I like the way you resized the pic to only 170kb, but it came out displayed large, and very sharp. I still have problems resizing pics. My program allows several different methods, some more clear than others, some result in a large pic but small file size like yours. I havent figured out why results are so different based on the tool used....

Most of the pics I post are 150-250 kb, which I think is bigger than the dial uppers like.

 

[Stumper]

Brian, I think that Kenn really meant that the rule about not using old climbing lines needs to be understood-It's stupid and unsafe to use even a new climbing line for applications way beyond its designed working loads. On the other hand, a lot of the rigging we do COULD be handled by just about any old rope. :angel:

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

Can't Tell!
:jester:

 

[Stumper]

It would be nice to be able to emulate R. Reagan's diplomacy. -Sort of a "We care about you, we want the best for you, so we are telling you out of genuine concern that if you get in our way we will smash you." The Quaker jokes with punchline "Friend, I would not hurt thee for the world but thou standest where I am about to shoot." found a genuine delivery from Ron Reagan.