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There are people that are so dependant on others that they are useless. Some have lots of $$$$$$$$ too, it must have been inherited, as they aren't smart enough to earn it. Can't light a fire, get a bird or bat out of the house, a frog out of the pool, or a coon out of the garage. Not smart enough to look at the gas gauge, check the oil in a machine or know what 2 cycle is. Good luck Henry, she sounds like a real winner!
 
There are people that are so dependant on others that they are useless. Some have lots of $$$$$$$$ too, it must have been inherited, as they aren't smart enough to earn it. Can't light a fire, get a bird or bat out of the house, a frog out of the pool, or a coon out of the garage. Not smart enough to look at the gas gauge, check the oil in a machine or know what 2 cycle is. Good luck Henry, she sounds like a real winner!

Damn Michael, it has to be great being you. Gee: "...get a bird or bat out of the house..." Whew, what a skill.

That "useless" person may:
1. Sew you up when you blow your ACL.:biggrinbounce2:
2. Teach you to read.:blob2:
3. Marry you.:sucks:
4. Develop kevlar for body armor.....oh yes, and PPE.:newbie:
5. Engineer and design those chainsaws you love.:pumpkin2:
6. THIMK boy ...there's plenty more.:hmm3grin2orange:

...and that $$$$$$. Ever get hired by someone without ??

JMNSHO
 
If it were me, i'd go back with cash in hand, and load up the wood and give her a refund. I'd also never have any wood available should she ever call again. I assure you....... she is the type that will NEVER be happy no matter what you do for her.

totally agree--and it sounds like brown boy wants to sell her wood--
 
B-school 101: An unhappy customer will tell on average 10 people about their complaints, a satisfied customer will, if you are lucky, tell 1-2 others. Unhappy customers always do far more damage. Give her the money back and take the wood away. If she is talking about bugs then she can really cause some damage. All wood has bugs unless it is kiln dried, so she will always be 100% right when she says you wood is infested with bugs.

BTW, a moisture meter is useless to read the moisture from a piece of firewood. You cannot take an accurate reading from the exposed surfaces. The instructions always tell you to take at least 1" off of an end and read at the fresh cut. I can get 12-17% moisture out of wood I cut last weekend if I test the sides today.
 
Her attitude would go a long ways in determining what I'd do. She's been nice but just a pain. Show her how to light the fire and maybe you'll get more referrals from the Aspen area. I'd rather have my knee surgeon be an expert on surgery and not know a lick about lighting a fire.
Plus maybe you'll get dinner out of it ;)
 
she must be an idiot or a liberal.

like their is a difference!

:hmm3grin2orange:
 
is she using a wood stove or fire place? when was the last time she had the chimney cleaned - could be a draft issue

heck if you've been nice so far why not light a fire and see what happens

or give her a refund
That's what I was thinking.....maybe to take a bit more time to see what she has and see how it lights for you might create more business.
building a fire is not that difficult with a good draft.
If she does not have a draft than no matter what wood she uses there will be issues.
If her flue is plugged you may save her from herself and that house from burning down too.
 
Fire and firewood.

I think I just said a whole lot right there. From when man first struck some rocks together to the unbelievable brawls that break out on Craigslist over what a cord of wood actually is. When I am not here I go over there and you should see the crap I start with them. No, just joking, I don't bother with that malarky.

Man, I feel bad sometimes but I really don't give a crap, sorry.
This lady talked me into dropping some 3 foot dia maple rounds. I told her this was not for her. We talked about it for an hour, she told me she had to be careful as her arm was bad. She was about 50 or so, maybe she was bored. She said she wanted it so ...

50 bucks for a load and she calls me back and hour later saying its my fault she has hurt herself and I need to come get the wood off her lawn. She might have even said she wanted the 50 back.

Well that is the women, they ain't so bad as what some guys are thinking.


no i didn't go get that wood from that lady. i wonder what bad things she told her neighbors about me.
 
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Fire and firewood.

I think I just said a whole lot right there. From when man first struck some rocks together to the unbelievable brawls that break out on Craigslist over what a cord of wood actually is. When I am not here I go over there and you should see the crap I start with them. No, just joking, I don't bother with that malarky.

Man, I feel bad sometimes but I really don't give a crap, sorry.
This lady talked me into dropping some 3 foot dia maple rounds. I told her this was not for her. We talked about it for an hour, she told me she had to be careful as her arm was bad. She was about 50 or so, maybe she was bored. She said she wanted it so ...

50 bucks for a load and she calls me back and hour later saying its my fault she has hurt herself and I need to come get the wood off her lawn. She might have even said she wanted the 50 back.

Well that is the women, they ain't so bad as what some guys are thinking.


no i didn't go get that wood from that lady. i wonder what bad things she told her neighbors about me.

What?You didnt run over there,split it up,stack it, and even build a fire for the old gal?whats wrong with you?LOL
I would have done the same thing as you,i probably would have hung up on her faster than you did.
 
Well Im curious now as to what she is doing wrong, I work for people like this and your right they sew you up or diagnose your cancer, but they sometimes can't wipe thier ass.

Every person has there proficiency, I have come to accept this because without those folks who make big money and need people like me that can do anything, I would have to have a boring mono focused job to make money.

I hope you can resolve her problem, but DO NOT HESSITATE to charge her for your time and fuel if the problem is her own ignorance.
She will pay and be happy.
 
Fire and firewood.

I think I just said a whole lot right there. From when man first struck some rocks together to the unbelievable brawls that break out on Craigslist over what a cord of wood actually is. When I am not here I go over there and you should see the crap I start with them. No, just joking, I don't bother with that malarky.

Man, I feel bad sometimes but I really don't give a crap, sorry.
This lady talked me into dropping some 3 foot dia maple rounds. I told her this was not for her. We talked about it for an hour, she told me she had to be careful as her arm was bad. She was about 50 or so, maybe she was bored. She said she wanted it so ...

50 bucks for a load and she calls me back and hour later saying its my fault she has hurt herself and I need to come get the wood off her lawn. She might have even said she wanted the 50 back.

Well that is the women, they ain't so bad as what some guys are thinking.


no i didn't go get that wood from that lady. i wonder what bad things she told her neighbors about me.

There is a time you must refuse to do what you know will be a problem, the money is not worth the future hassle.
 
so yesterday afternoon, in wind and single digit temperatures i dug some edgings out and cut up a couple of five gallon buckets of kindling, then i sorted through the firewood pile and picked out some good small pieces and some pine with lots of splinters on it.
this morning with 16 below zero, i left the house at 7:15 and went to load up firewood. i had 3 other deliveries to make, but to deliver the kindling to her was about another 10 miles of crappy roads and crappier drivers. but while i am loading up firewood, i get a message on my phone saying that she just wants her money back and for me to take the wood away. no hard feelings she says, she wont tell anyone about me or the wood. this is the second or third time she has gone out of her way to tell me that she wont trash talk me. my experience is that anyone who professes not to do something either already has, or soon will, or is threatening that if i dont do what she wants, she will.
since i had already left, and my deliveries today didnt require a wheel barrow, i didnt have one with me. when i delivered the wood to her i didnt have one, but that is because she said i could back right up to the garage. what she failed to mention was that the wood didnt go in the garage, it went behind it. behind it was down the side, and around the corner where she had a metal rack for stacking. i should have known then that there would be a problem. she told me then that her landscaper had told her to stack the wood several feet from the house because of bugs getting into the stucco from the wood. well her landscaper is the brown boy that "cleaned" the wood, the guy that is trash talking my product.
after my 3 deliveries today, i called and left her a message telling her that i couldnt pick it up today, as i was already losing money on this and couldnt make a special trip to pick up the wood, but that i would do it tomorrow. i also told her that i would buy back whatever wood she had left, and that if there were any evidence that showed that the wood was dirty, or had bugs, or was wet, i would gladly refund 100% of her money. and that she needed to have a path shoveled to the wood pile so i could get a wheel barrow around the back of the house.
when i get there tomorrow, i will ask her to show me the bugs, show me the dirty wood (not all was cleaned), and i will SHOW her the numbers on the moisture meter. if it is under 20% moisture, i will not refund all her money, i will keep back $20 for the labor to stack and remove, and i will pay her for what wood she has left, if its half, then half. if it is over 20%, i will give her 100% of her money back, apologize, and leave.
20% moisture content is plenty dry for firewood. i am not sure, but i bet up to 30% would even be ok. over the years i actually had one customer call me to complain that the wood they bought from me was TOO DRY!
 
B-school 101: An unhappy customer will tell on average 10 people about their complaints, a satisfied customer will, if you are lucky, tell 1-2 others. Unhappy customers always do far more damage. .


I heard that a bit differently. It was 50 that an unhappy customer will tell.

:(
 
The old bluesman Jonny Lee hooker said it best....
So ya think that's funny,everybody kinda funny...you funny too!
 
It would be only social Justice for you to meet the "brown boy" and let slip how he is referenced by the HO
It's just hard to Imagine how Ignorant some people can be, Id still try to discover what her firestarting problem is. my bet is the flue is closed
and the "brown boy" has firewood for sale.

I find your price to be amazingly cheap for the work involved, I would not reload and carry a stack of wood in the snow for 50.00 much less 20.00
 
If the path to the wood needs to be shoveled I think she will hard pressed to find bugs. Very noble of you to make such a generous offer to her. Just a thought but maybe you want to see if she will make her "boy" load the wood back in your truck and you can sit and watch. If he's willing to wash it, moving it should be a snap.
 

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