ForTheArborist
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I'm looking around at the hardware stores, and I think there is better to be found. I need at least a two foot bit.
Where do you buy an extra long bit to take core samples?
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treemandan
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Put the drill bit down,step away from the tree!
ForTheArborist
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Don't, guy. My load is high enough with out being BSed over a dandy lil' ol' drill bit. I'm just not ready for all of the TUIs tonight. (Typing Under the Influence)
ForTheArborist
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treemandan
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Under the influence of what though?
Do you know what you are doing? If yes, then maybe you should have the catalouge that has the ship augers in it. I dunno but I thought what I had said earlier was pretty dam funny.
BTW: you do know what you are doing right? An extra long bit for a core sample? Maybe its me. Is it? What is exactly that you are trying to accomplish?
ForTheArborist
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Let's just never mind what influenzas.
Why would you take a ship auger to a tree though? They don't make them in a small enough diameter.
Why would you take a ship auger to a tree though? They don't make them in a small enough diameter.
treemandan
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I am not going to argue with you... very much longer but yes they do. Thing is any two foot bit that is real skinny is gonna heat up and break.
What are you looking for a 1/8 bit 2 foot long?
What are trying to accomplish with the core sample?
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ForTheArborist
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These trees, there's topped bad some years ago, and one split in the wind because of rot and fungus all through itself. We're checking the rest to see if they got it too.
Wouldn't somebody make a carbide bid that doesn't break under heat when it's over extended like I need?
Wouldn't somebody make a carbide bid that doesn't break under heat when it's over extended like I need?
That was my question, if your looking for core sample they make auger bits for cores.
ForTheArborist
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Where do they sell that kind of drill hit, and I'm wonder if I need to be any more narrow than a 1/4". I like to leave the trees in tact as much as possible if they check out you know.
treemandan
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put the drill bit down and step away from the tree!
ForTheArborist
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Alright, I got it. 1/4" auger bit and an extension. They must sell those around here without having to order online.
EdenT
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So the tree's have been topped and now you want to drill holes in them in case they don't have enough problems. Heard of a mallet?
Norwayclimber
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Couldnt agree more! Today we do have ways of checking for decay without making openings for more decay, like http://www.treesjerry####er.co.uk/Tomograph.htm
ForTheArborist
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That link didn't show anything.
This method is likely to bug some of us here out, but it will work. After coreing out the holes in the trees, I'm going to fill them in with clean wax. As the trees grow and fill back in the holes, the wax will just be squeezed back out until the holes seal themselves off. The idea is to prevent any exposure to pathologies.
As far as using a mallet goes I would if the bark was not so thick. All I'd be doing is banging up the thick bark to no avail. On a smooth trunk surface a mallet would be fine.
This method is likely to bug some of us here out, but it will work. After coreing out the holes in the trees, I'm going to fill them in with clean wax. As the trees grow and fill back in the holes, the wax will just be squeezed back out until the holes seal themselves off. The idea is to prevent any exposure to pathologies.
As far as using a mallet goes I would if the bark was not so thick. All I'd be doing is banging up the thick bark to no avail. On a smooth trunk surface a mallet would be fine.
Norwayclimber
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Sorry, it's a victim of this sites censorship, as the for letters were d i c k. But try googling tree and tomograh. Or be thick headed and go ahead and do it old bestial way, drilling a hole in the tree and filling it with wax. Oh and by the way, next time you want to ask a question, try the HACKforum and not the arboistforum
If you want to take a core sample, then you will need an increment borer. This drills with a hollow bit and allows a 1/4" core to be removed. You will have something to hold, look at and show the customer. Bailey's has them for about $225.
If you want to just drill the hole and inspect the sawdust, then just get a long twist drill. You can probably pick those up at any tool store (not Home Depot), or else an electrical wholesaler. You need one that isn't more than 3/8".
I've never filled in the hole. The significance of that small a hole in a tree as an infection court, in my opinion, is very small. Branch pruning produces a larger infection court.
What you have to be concerned about is that any rot in heart of the tree may not be cylindrical or consistent through the tree. So it can be easy to miss. I once drilled a hemlock which indicated rot when you looked at the crown, but 5 holes only showed sound wood. Once the tree was removed, the rot was in pockets and looked more like an amoeba
and I missed with all 5 holes.
There are electronic devices to do the same thing, but they are expensive and not always available.
If you want to just drill the hole and inspect the sawdust, then just get a long twist drill. You can probably pick those up at any tool store (not Home Depot), or else an electrical wholesaler. You need one that isn't more than 3/8".
I've never filled in the hole. The significance of that small a hole in a tree as an infection court, in my opinion, is very small. Branch pruning produces a larger infection court.
What you have to be concerned about is that any rot in heart of the tree may not be cylindrical or consistent through the tree. So it can be easy to miss. I once drilled a hemlock which indicated rot when you looked at the crown, but 5 holes only showed sound wood. Once the tree was removed, the rot was in pockets and looked more like an amoeba
and I missed with all 5 holes.
There are electronic devices to do the same thing, but they are expensive and not always available.
I would think with your standard of work and knowledge doing a bore cut with a 36 inch bar would be more your style.
Youtube it.
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