Why doesn't Stihl tell us more?

[04ultra]

Stihl and Husky do to keep all the saw modders happy . It gives them something to argue here in the threads about.

 

[stihltech]

chris

And WHO made the final adjustment taking into acount the nuances of the midrange jet? HMMMM?

I' think the gas fumes are getting to me.

Did you find my chain yet? The one that bounces cookie s?

 

[Diesel JD]

Yeah...well, I'm not a pro, but I knew why teh 390 was cheaper than the 440 for instance...if you look at teh basic specs...displacement, weight, power to weight ratio...its telling. It is weird that Stihl specs up toa 28" bar on the 390..I tried that and it doesn't work, at least not with full comp chain, but probably would witha modded saw and full skip square chisel. The bar lengths are where we ahve a lot of arguments over here...and where Stihl's specs get blurry. We all know a 361 is at least as cpapble of pullinga 25" bar as a 390, yet it is off spec....the 660 is technichally limited to a 36" bar...yet many pro woodcutters will runa 42" or even a 50 on them and be happy. My 025 is spec'd for no longer than an 18" bar...but if I could mount one a 20" would be absolutely fine on there I am sure, and I'm a little skeptical that the MS192T could pull a 16" bar and chain(not narrow kerf) yet it is on spec.

 

[shadyg]

The 440 and 460 are different enough that I can't picture a large outfit not trying to fill both those market niches.

You hit the nail on the head here smokechase.
I've just recently bought a 460, after selling my 044 that I ran for eight years.
After running the 460 for 5 or 6 hours, you can really FEEL the difference. You can definitely cut more wood faster (bucking up hardwood) with the 460, but it'll beat you up more. In fact, I just bought a little Dolmar 5100 for the small stuff...never even would have thought about doing this when I had the 044.

 

[jstarnes]

Have you done the muffler mod and fixed the plastic lock outs on the carb?

If you don't mind my asking, can you explain what the advantages of such a procedure???
Also, is their any other information on the muffler mod and plastic lock outs? My local mechanic will not do any modifications or at least not at the shop. I haven't asked what he does at home.

 

[computeruser]

If you don't mind my asking, can you explain what the advantages of such a procedure???
Also, is their any other information on the muffler mod and plastic lock outs? My local mechanic will not do any modifications or at least not at the shop. I haven't asked what he does at home.

Saw breathes better, more fuel in more exhaust out = more power out of the same motor, with the added bonus of a cooler-running engine.

Do a search for "muffler mod" and one for "limiter caps" and you'll have more reading than you will know what to do with!!

 

[Just Mow]

Sorry if I made it sound like the mid range saws from Stihl are bad, that was not what I was tring to say! The mid range saws are most certainly good saws, I was just saying that for me (a novice when it comes to Stihls) when I looked over the specs from Stihl, there seemed to be not that big of a difference. Stihl should IMHO, list more of the manufacturing differences, things like case material, ports, drive sprockets. Car manufactures do this as well as motorcycle manufactures- a more informed customer will be a happier one in the long run. It's almost like Stihl wants the non-pro, to think the mid range saws are the same as the pro series, example a 390 is recommended for up to a 28" bar where as a 361 is recommended for up to a 20"? This tells someone who doesn't know better, that the 390 will be more powerful than the 361.

That's supposed to be your dealers job to explain the differences to you. A good Stihl dealer would.

 

[Lakeside53]

so.. did you guy intentionally drag up this old thread?

 

[jstarnes]

Saw breathes better, more fuel in more exhaust out = more power out of the same motor, with the added bonus of a cooler-running engine.

Do a search for "muffler mod" and one for "limiter caps" and you'll have more reading than you will know what to do with!!

Thanks a Million!!!
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