Wood burners...

[Hugenpoet]

I think firewood prices will rise with gas prices because once you get your saw and splitter paid for, the fuel for your vehicle and equipment is the most expensive part of it, at least for small time sellers that don't have to pay for labor, insurance and such.

Maybe I need to think about waiting another year or two before getting my stove... there might be a lot of "only used one winter ! Wife says it's gotta go !" type stoves on Craig's List next summer.

Ian

Obviously not one of us can look into the future, but if I were a betting man, with the sky rocketing price of fossil fuel, I would give odds that it is much more probable people will have to put their names on waiting lists just to pay list price for OWBs and good quality wood stoves rather than cherry picking out of a large number of readily available and inexpensive "used one season" wood burners.

 

[Zodiac45]

Obviously not one of us can look into the future, but if I were a betting man, with the sky rocketing price of fossil fuel, I would give odds that it is much more probable people will have to put their names on waiting lists just to pay list price for OWBs and good quality wood stoves rather than cherry picking out of a large number of readily available and inexpensive "used one season" wood burners.

Probably right! Many people will dive in head first and not have a clue. I'd be a little more leary of the OWB due too legislation that seems to happening as we type. Look at the Ohio situation. Those folk need 200 feet from a nieghbor or they have to remove the unit by 2012 or 15? or shut it down. The other issue is wood usage. Indoor stoves while messier are much more efficient regarding wood usage. Everyone I've ever spoken too tells me that they use twice the amount of wood in the OWB than they used indoors in stoves. I'm afraid that within the next few years, those of us who have access too free wood will find that access starting to dwindle. I haven't ever bought wood, but I can tell you that I've begun too start looking at woodlots near my home.

 

[ZeroJunk]

I've been using this one for years. We made 5 or 6 of them in the last wood burning craze, back in the 70's. I can get a 24 inch stick in there. Some we made could use take a 30 inch piece. I wish I had one of those but they all seem to have wandered away and I lost track of them. If I'm not careful I'll come home and my wife will have it so hot I have to open the windows.

 

[JBinKC]

If wood burning appliances are selling like hotcakes now that sure is a major change of sentiment in demand over a short period of time. It seemed like throughout the winter all I would see is clearance sales on them as manufacturers overproduced units.

I hope the trend doesn't get too popular though it is just more competition scoring free firewood

 

[jjett84724]

I guess things are a little different here. I have yet to see an OWB in the valley. Everyone I know burns firewood here. Every home I have been into has at least one wood burning stove or insert. I guess that comes from living in the country and being from a generation that is a little more self sufficient. We have four neighbors (all own 10 acre lots) and we make a date and get everyones firewood over a weekend. I hope things get better where you guys are. It sounds like its a mess.

 

[qphrfd01]

I totally agree with the last few posts about the future of free wood and the surge in sales of OWB's. Since I am heating a house and barn/garage and have the supply of fuel due to Forest Management I went with the "WOOD HOG". I researched different systems and I know the downfalls of my choice. It seems that regulations are popping up all over due to smoke issues and ignorance which concerned my greatly. I will keep my opion on that subject to myself but my nearest neighbor is 1,800' plus away. Alot of wood, alot of work, alot of smoke, I think these units should have been regulations along time ago and not a "knee jerk reaction ordinances" that being pasted recently.

 

[stephen44]

wood store or shed discussion

sorry mis post !

 

[abohac]

I dont regret having a wood stove. Its well-worth the hours spent in the summer cutting, splitting, hauling and stacking wood when the heat bill comes during the winter months and its $80 instead of being $300-$500 a month.

I'm with you. I don't care if I spend more money on my equipment to get the wood than if I just bought propane. I refuse to give anyone that much money for fuel (plus I love splitters, saws and the feeling I have at the end of a long day with a big pile of wood).

 

[Hugenpoet]

I'm with you. I don't care if I spend more money on my equipment to get the wood than if I just bought propane. I refuse to give anyone that much money for fuel (plus I love splitters, saws and the feeling I have at the end of a long day with a big pile of wood).

+1 Or fuel oil. I'd much rather have the saws and the satisfaction of knowing I didn't just bend over and pay.

 

[knucklepanshovel]

what I figure will happen is some people will do many short cuts like remove a window & stick a piece of metal there on their trailer/home/camper/bus or shack & use coathangers to brace stove pipe & put wood stove inside.

I have waited over 5 years to see my former neighbors house burn down.. no luck yet. it is in the city beside house I grew up in. they heat with the double 55 gallon barrels laying on side. cracked & have been welded in place. placed sideways close to a wall several box fans in the room & stove is too close to back wall & & & & &.......... chimney sits at least 1 foot away from house.. it leans farther & farther every year water runoff has washed foundation out from underneath back edge. & it will fall into my parents old houses yard

they will burn green pine or anything they get their hands on including pallet pieces will throw used motor oil to get it going. the husband races street bikes & 1 son races plus they have several big block street cars they street race & they come up with a lot of oil they save it all year for starting fires. they also burn all their trash in it..

I gave up explaining to them. now I just look expecting it to be burned down one day...

but I can see alot of people making alot of mistakes. especially around these parts.. no real laws regulating what a person does. last winter 3 houses burned within 1 mile of my wifes house. all were wood stove related 1 I knew person & he lost everything including all vehicles in yard. they were parked close to house & melted insides. he got out with clothes on his back & his life. bad thing was I saw fire but thought it was some idiot burning trash most people burn outside in piles or incenerators or barrels around here & I saw it 2 hours before he woke up but it was next road over & down 3 homes I saw through the woods. I saw it at 2am he was woke up with the fire at 4am.

this is very rural area.. it is nothing to see people out all night doing work. 1 guy sometimes keeps me up he works his tractor in lower 100 acres insight of this place & he might start at midnight & work till daylight no laws to say he cant make noise. or farm. that land used to be apart of wifes great grandparents old farm. others may have flood lights up & doing shooting untill 3 or 4am. & I dont want to forget the cock fighting within a couple miles which make alot of people out some nights. so nothing unusual to see people outside doing things 3am or after in middle of nowhere.....

Randy

 

[zh farms]

I am putting one in this year after I realized how much wood I will be cutting anyways from my timber. Not only is the price of natural gas going up in my area (that's the main reason), I am doing TSI on our timber. I will be cutting a lot of 'junk' trees out of my timber to renew the forest. I have tons of hedge (osage), locust and hackberry to cut out so I can replant with oaks, walnuts, and more wildlife friendly varieties. Instead of just pushing all of it into a pile and lighting it, I am going to heat with it. It makes more sense, and I will be in the woods cutting already. 120 acres of free heat is a very good incentive to buy a OWB.

ZH

 

[Wood Doctor]

I am putting one in this year after I realized how much wood I will be cutting anyways from my timber. Not only is the price of natural gas going up in my area (that's the main reason), I am doing TSI on our timber. I will be cutting a lot of 'junk' trees out of my timber to renew the forest. I have tons of hedge (osage), locust and hackberry to cut out so I can replant with oaks, walnuts, and more wildlife friendly varieties. Instead of just pushing all of it into a pile and lighting it, I am going to heat with it. It makes more sense, and I will be in the woods cutting already. 120 acres of free heat is a very good incentive to buy a OWB.
ZH

I wish the state highway construction crews and our government had as much sense as you do. They pile the logs up as they make room for the wider roads and then send the heat to the sky in bon fires. Not a single firewood dealer is ever notified or invited to haul it away, let alone homeowners who heat with wood. That disgusts me. :censored:

 

[Backwoods]

Try getting a permit to cut firewood around here and they will give you a permit for a landing 100 miles away. Then send someone 100 miles away to cut on a landing just down the road from you. Where is the common sense in this.

 

[Wood Doctor]

Try getting a permit to cut firewood around here and they will give you a permit for a landing 100 miles away. Then they send someone 100 miles away to cut on a landing just down the road from you. Where is the common sense in this?

There is no common sense in that. Do you think that the people running these governmental offices (1) really know what they are doing or (2) have good information to work with in the first place, or (3) really care?

So, this way you get to know someone 100 miles away by driving 100 miles to find firewood and the guy 100 miles away gets to know you by cutting wood right down the road from you. Both of you can then share the story with your grandchildren about how the "knowledge" of our government and its concern for the common man.

BTW, awhile back I also Googled the best directions from my house to a small town five miles down the road on almost a straight path, just to see what I would receive. The site came back with directions that required two left turns, two right turns, and a total distance traveled of 17 miles. That computer just might be the same one that probably gave you a permit to cut wood 100 miles away. :censored:

 

[Jkebxjunke]

There is no common sense in that. Do you think that the people running these governmental offices (1) really know what they are doing or (2) have good information to work with in the first place, or (3) really care?

So, this way you get to know someone 100 miles away by driving 100 miles to find firewood and the guy 100 miles away gets to know you by cutting wood right down the road from you. Both of you can then share the story with your grandchildren about how the "knowledge" of our government and its concern for the common man.

BTW, awhile back I also Googled the best directions from my house to a small town five miles down the road on almost a straight path, just to see what I would receive. The site came back with directions that required two left turns, two right turns, and a total distance traveled of 17 miles. That computer just might be the same one that probably gave you a permit to cut wood 100 miles away. :censored:

option 4) someone got paid

 

[abohac]

Im good to go as far as being able to find wood goes. My parents live on 3 acres of land in NE Wisconsin and mother nature supplies us with more wood than we could ever need.
My parents, my brother and I all heat with wood heat and the only trees we take are the ones that are dying. Even then, we cant hardly keep up with Mother Nature.
Not that Im complaining...

On 3 acres? You meant 30 right?