Working around the power?

[ropensaddle]

Ok as stated in my prior post I said I was going to take a picture of the chart and here it is. I realy hope this helps you out.
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Now dont take this as gods word, but for us this is the standards we live by.

I see they made some changes hell you can't read it no moro. Me no habla that chart. Any way; I never really understood how that chart accomplished anything. We never used it, I mean #### are you going to take a tape measure to the line and measure your separation?
This stuff though important the higher the voltage really is moot. The danger trees we took out, routinely broke separation chart distance anyway. I have seen trunks 1 foot from primaries and limbs completely engulfing the phase and we did the job. I have roped phase to pull them to create better separation and many other tricks to safely get the job accomplished. The main thing is staying out of the path of least resistance which is why I still type.

 

[jefflovstrom]

True. But what exactly does the rule say? I don't really know.

I suspect that it is very general in its language, and a line clearance certified worker might not be subject to OSHA fines for working inside the limit, regardless of who he was working for.

However! There may be other regulations, laws, or imposed limitations in addition to OSHA's regulations that we don't know about.

Rope! Where are you ? Got an opinion?

Wanna bet!
Jeff

 

[jefflovstrom]

Wanna bet!
Jeff

There is no certified, only qualified. And you need to see some gruesome pic's!
Jeff

 

[Rftreeman]

There is no certified, only qualified. And you need to see some gruesome pic's!
Jeff

I can show you a card that says "certified".....

 

[ropensaddle]

I can show you a card that says "certified".....

Lol you mean they issue them when you leave that place

 

[jefflovstrom]

I can show you a card that says "certified".....

So do it!
Jeff

 

[lxt]

Now as to your question, you can become a certified utility arborist buy the guide study and pass the quiz it would be a start.

you will still need to have worked for a Line clearance company...unless you lie about your experience!



LXT...........

 

[oldirty]

today was a wire day. i personally don't like but someone gotsta do it.

 

[lxt]

I dont know about what cert/qualified status most have, But, mine is through the commonwealth of PA/Dept of Labor!! thats who the issuing authority is here.

those cards through Davey are a joke as well asplundh, etc... i went back to Line clearance in 05 & worked up till late 06, I had to take a lil test for my Line card............I got a 100% the test is easy....BUT does not mean you are certified or qualified, ropes is right in the ANSI reading it does say Qualified!!! If you havent trained under someone dont even mess around with power!


LXT................

 

[Rftreeman]

I dont know about what cert/qualified status most have, But, mine is through the commonwealth of PA/Dept of Labor!! thats who the issuing authority is here.

those cards through Davey are a joke as well asplundh, etc... i went back to Line clearance in 05 & worked up till late 06, I had to take a lil test for my Line card............I got a 100% the test is easy....BUT does not mean you are certified or qualified, ropes is right in the ANSI reading it does say Qualified!!! If you havent trained under someone dont even mess around with power!


LXT................

You mean to tell me I ain't special anymore........I took the test also but had several years experience to back it up when I took the test but you're right, it's all a joke and is just something to keep OSHA from busting balls or give them a reason to bust balls...

 

[Mike Cantolina]

ehap:

http://www.tcia.org/Public/product_ehap.htm

 

[jefflovstrom]

I can show you a card that says "certified".....

When you gonna show it? You said you can!
Jeff

 

[Rftreeman]

When you gonna show it? You said you can!
Jeff

well, you may have me, it doesn't say "certified" but it does say certification, does that count....:hmm3grin2orange:

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[jefflovstrom]

well, you may have me, it doesn't say "certified" but it does say certification, does that count....:hmm3grin2orange:

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I am not ragging on ya, but big Kudos to you. The 'certification' means you are 'Qualified'. I don't know why it is that way unless it is a legal or liability issue. Thanks for your understanding, and not arguing.
Jeff
Still can't rep. Gotta spread it around. Where?

 

[capecodtree]

Ehap

Electrical Hazard Awareness Program. Read it, pass the test, live by it.

 

[ropensaddle]

I am not ragging on ya, but big Kudos to you. The 'certification' means you are 'Qualified'. I don't know why it is that way unless it is a legal or liability issue. Thanks for your understanding, and not arguing.
Jeff
Still can't rep. Gotta spread it around. Where?

I am fairly certain it is to do with trainees which must get experience some how. If it was set too high the new labor may not meet the standards.

PS: rftree I had many certification training cards from all the big co#s but davey so your still special:monkey:

 

[Rftreeman]

I am not ragging on ya, but big Kudos to you. The 'certification' means you are 'Qualified'. I don't know why it is that way unless it is a legal or liability issue. Thanks for your understanding, and not arguing.
Jeff
Still can't rep. Gotta spread it around. Where?

ain't nothing but a card, just like most cards we carry, just there in case someone asks for it....

 

[802climber]

+1 EHAP
Remember "anything" could be hot: guide wires, ground wire, neutral line, phone line etc.
Beware of using old/cracked pruner poles, old ropes, etc. anywhere near electrical conductors.
Weather-coating on the 240 volt service lines is weather-coating not insulation, and could zap you at worn spots.

A Qualified Line Clearance Arborist or Qualified Line Clearance Arborist "In Training" follows minimum approach distance based on voltage.

If you are not a Qualified Line Clearance Arborist you are supposed to have minimum approach of 10 feet or whatever.

Also, I read about ANSI rules for wire core fliplines and IIRC if you or any part of your tree is within 10 ft of electrical conductor this counts as electrical hazard and you're not supposed to use wire core fliplines, etc.